Is your mailer not set to auto wrap lines?  What are you using, Pine? :P

It is not because of *my* applications I prefer the settings I do.  We're on
the same page when it comes to that.  It is due to thousands of other
designers out there don't know/care enough to send the proper headers.  With
this being the case, I choose the lowest common denominator and I no longer
have to support someone else's poorly designed site.

I think we strayed a little bit from the original author's question.  Perhaps
he can just try what I suggested and, if that solves the problem, he is free
to implement the caching headers.  

FYI, Google yielded a pretty good overview on caching:
http://vancouver-webpages.com/CacheNow/


Peter Guzis
Web Administrator, Sr.
ENCAD, Inc.
- A Kodak Company
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.encad.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Vivek Khera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:56 AM
To: Peter Guzis
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Templates] Page not displayed until ctrl-refresh


>>>>> "PG" == Peter Guzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

PG> <bad morning>
PG> Thanks for the positive feedback.  Glad I could help.  You've obviously never had 
to support end-users' browsers.  Ideally every server would send the correct headers 
and we would all live in the happy town of CacheLand.  The reality is: different 
browsers interpret different headers differently and the headers themselves are almost 
as much of a crapshoot as trying to write cross-browser JavaScript.  Many sites don't 
even send the right headers or omit them outright.  Let's not forget overzealous 
caching proxies too.
PG> </bad morning>

Could you wrap your lines?  Thanks.

Yes, I do support a rather large community using our service, and
everything works just as expected because our server sets
expiry/nocache on select pages properly.  Seriously, if you're
building an app that expects pages to be fetched every time, then your
server should say so when it delivers the pages.

The only times this fails is when the client's clock is off by
something like a few months or more, which causes many other issues,
let alone bad cached pages, or they're using an older Opera with its
insane defaults to ignore the nocache settings (but almost nobody uses
it so it is pretty much a non-issue).



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