On 15/06/2011, Christian Lohmaier <lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi Friedrich, *, > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier > <damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de> wrote: >> e-letter schrieb: >>> On 12/06/2011, Friedrich Strohmaier <damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de> >> wrote: >> >>> This does not occur with gmail; all messages are _not_ received as >>> attachments but as a single message >> >> So *GMAIL IS BUGGY*. > > No, the description is wrong of course the messages are /received/ as > attachments, they are received as everybody else does. There are no > special messages crafted for gmail users, the original source is the > same for all. > But gmail /*displays*/ them as a single message. Whether you consider > this as a bug or feature is up to you :-) >
So gmail is breaking the (rfc?) convention? That makes this inline display behaviour a bug, in my opinion but probably a feature by others. >> You want us to serve solving Your problem but don't want to serve us >> with information needed for that, considering our preferences - thing >> You claim strongly for Yourself? > > I'm a gmail user as well, And I cannot reproduce the problem. So there > is no point in requesting the original mail anymore. When I reply to a > digest mail, the whole digest mail is quoted, all is included. Nothing > is missing as e-letter repots. I have my preferences set to > plain-text, not rich-text. That is the only default setting that I can > think of that would affect the reply/text-entry box. > In my general settings, I cannot see an option to choose text formats, but it seems to be plain text since there are no formatting options in my web-mail interface. The only setting I have changed is to use utf8 encoding for sent messages. Interestingly, this message shows the original message content after activating the reply hyperlink; looking at the header and comparing with the digest mode message header, maybe the from address being test... is the cause. >> [...] >>>> To second Christian: As other mailers are capable to handle "our" >>>> digests as intended, it's most likely an issue of Your >>>> configuration <-> preferences combination. As You are the single one >>>> complaining, maybe the previously mentioned method ordering single >>>> mails by number might be a workaround. >> >>> Just done that with this message. >> >> confirmed: Thread is kept well. > > And this is the only way of not breaking the thread with gmail. That's > the other reason why it is pointless to try to "fix" something here > that is not broken on our end. > In other mailing lists the thread is maintained if the subject text is copied, but may be broken if there is a small change in space characters. >>> "To reply to individual messages within a digest-mode message, use the >>> following syntax of the e-mail recipient address: >>> 'mailinglistname'+get-'digest-modemessagenumber'@..." >> >> No good idea, because posting a solution for a problem noone faces >> generates confusion at best. > > Yes, and as written: I cannot see any reason to subscribe to a digest > version when using gmail. I am subscribed to two digests - one is > gnome-announce that I've been subscribed to before using gmail, and > then never bothered to change my subscription, but that doesn't matter > as this is a list where I only receive stuff, never post myself, and > the other one is the test-list that I subscribed to in order to check > this problem-report. > > Using gmail for mailinglists were you reply to is anti-social as > written before, as you don't have a chance of keeping the thread. You > will always break the thread on reply, messing the lists up for > everyone, those who read it later in one of the archives, anyone who > uses a threaded reader (and that also includes gmail, where "threaded" > is more like "collected by summary). > Isn't relying on threads also weak when threads become long and may continue beyond the normal 1 month categories of mail archives? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to test+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/test/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
