On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 00:14 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 23:18:00 -0500,
>   John Morris <jmor...@beau.org> wrote:
> > 
> > And of course Network-Manager isn't optional anymore.  Oh no, you can't
> 
> You can still run the network service. You use chkconfig to turn it on.
> If you don't need wireless, turning off NetworkManager doesn't seem to
> be a problem, but it's also possible to run both at the same time.

No it isn't.  If NM isn't managing a connection to the Internet then
Firefox (fixable), Evolution, Empathy and almost certainly other apps go
into offline mode.  You can still run a server without NetworkManager
but a desktop install now requires that it be installed and managing
your connection.  Been there, tried that and have the t-shirt.

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