On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 16:23:12 -0500,
>   John Morris <jmor...@beau.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 00:14 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 23:18:00 -0500,
> > >   John Morris <jmor...@beau.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And of course Network-Manager isn't optional anymore.  Oh no, you
> can't
>
> That is not the behavior I see. I run desktops without NetworkManager
> running (but installed) and there is no problem with firefox. (I don't
> use evolution or empathy.)
>

Same observation here.  I think if you leave NM enabled but it is not
connected yet for some reason, you will see the offline behavior reported by
John Morris.  Otherwise his rant is inaccurate.

Rahul
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