I think that it must be possible to make the icon visible as an option. I
use a cellular modem on my laptop and the easiest way to connect with it to
the net is by clicking that icon...
I guess that it's possible to connect from other places, but it won't be as
easy.


On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 8:48 AM, John Morris <jmor...@beau.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 2013-10-03 at 20:59 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> > You should get an icon indicating failure just no success one. Which
> > is even very unixy ;)
>
> Well GNU is Not Unix and these days Fedora isn't even following that
> star.  How does Apple do it?
>
> Screen space is valuable so removing an icon that is 'always' there and
> isn't typically displaying useful information is sensible enough.  But
> as the bug commenters noted, some people DO move between wired
> connections and such so an option to put it back really needs a bit of
> thought.  And your idea that if anything goes wrong, loss of link,
> failure to acquire a lease, etc. it should put up a no-net icon is very
> good since these days no-network is the odd case, probably an error
> state and almost always something the user wants to know about.  Better
> still of course if it has a tooltip with useful information.
>
> Any move to remove it with zero option should be a position that needs
> defending first, not something one person imposes from on high.  If for
> no other reason than it is going to surprise people so some awareness
> building is probably a good idea.
>
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