On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 13:41 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Oct 7, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Adam Williamson <awill...@redhat.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 2013-10-04 at 09:04 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > >> A wired state icon in the menu bar is not needed if it's available upon > >> making a physical connection, by default, for all users. For Gnome 3.8, I > >> regularly encountered no network connection upon successful install, > >> despite a working wire in the singular ethernet port, because by default > >> "Connect Automatically" is not enabled for wired connections. > >> > >> So if I have to give the system A Captain Obvious Clue, yes I really do > >> need an otherwise useless wired network state icon in the menubar. But > >> better would be no wired network icon, but any user by default has access > >> to the network connection automatically if the wired is in the port. (As a > >> Mac user the idea that a network isn't connected to automatically by > >> default upon physical access to both computer and wire is not merely > >> surprising, it is considered broken.) > > > > Doesn't match my experience at all. We've brought up wired network > > connections by defaults for several releases, now, though it used to > > default to off in non-network installs back around F16 or something. > > Yet several times after F20 alpha live installs I've had to go manually turn > on the wired network, and the "Connect Automatically" option was unchecked. I > suppose it could be a transient or imaginary problem. If I get something > consistent I'll file a bug against network manager.
Well, I haven't run many F20 installs, since I've been traveling. If it's really happening, it's definitely not intentional, AFAIK. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin DOT net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test