On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 13:41 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Oct 7, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Adam Williamson <awill...@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 2013-10-04 at 09:04 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > 
> >> A wired state icon in the menu bar is not needed if it's available upon 
> >> making a physical connection, by default, for all users. For Gnome 3.8, I 
> >> regularly encountered no network connection upon successful install, 
> >> despite a working wire in the singular ethernet port, because by default 
> >> "Connect Automatically" is not enabled for wired connections.
> >> 
> >> So if I have to give the system A Captain Obvious Clue, yes I really do 
> >> need an otherwise useless wired network state icon in the menubar. But 
> >> better would be no wired network icon, but any user by default has access 
> >> to the network connection automatically if the wired is in the port. (As a 
> >> Mac user the idea that a network isn't connected to automatically by 
> >> default upon physical access to both computer and wire is not merely 
> >> surprising, it is considered broken.)
> > 
> > Doesn't match my experience at all. We've brought up wired network
> > connections by defaults for several releases, now, though it used to
> > default to off in non-network installs back around F16 or something.
> 
> Yet several times after F20 alpha live installs I've had to go manually turn 
> on the wired network, and the "Connect Automatically" option was unchecked. I 
> suppose it could be a transient or imaginary problem. If I get something 
> consistent I'll file a bug against network manager.

Well, I haven't run many F20 installs, since I've been traveling. If
it's really happening, it's definitely not intentional, AFAIK.
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Adam Williamson
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