On Feb 28, 2014, at 10:02 PM, Orion Poplawski <or...@cora.nwra.com> wrote:

> On 02/27/2014 12:38 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> 
>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:06 AM, Eric Sandeen <sand...@sandeen.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2/26/14, 11:37 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Fedora is considering XFS as their default file system. They support
>>>> three primary architectures: x86_64, i686, and armv7hl.  Do XFS devs
>>>> have any reservations about XFS as a default file system on either
>>>> i686, or arm?
>>> 
>>> As Dave said, we rely on others to do ARM testing for the most part,
>>> though I've certainly jumped in and debugged some issues from time
>>> to time.
>>> 
>>> It'd be super if Fedora could run the xfstests test suite on arm
>>> as part of QE.  I'd be more than happy to help get that started
>>> if people are interested.
>> 
>> I don't know that Fedora QA has the resources to do this, but I'll cc the 
>> Fedora test@ (QA) arm@ lists. If these are highly automatable tests it might 
>> be possible, if they have the hardware. More likely I think it's that we 
>> need some ARM community folks to look at splitting up some of this work.
>> 
>> I'm not sure yet what concerns the ARM group might have with XFS either as 
>> this hasn't been decided, but the Fedora Server product working group is 
>> slightly leaning toward XFS by default. Performance and CPU hit wise on 
>> x86_64, XFS seems to match up well with ext4 and maybe even a bit better 
>> ratio of throughput/CPUtime for booting workload (systemd is parallel!) so 
>> if were the same on ARM XFS could work out slightly better for them.
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Murphy
>> 
> 
> I'm sure many people have much better info on this - but back in the
> day, running XFS on LVM (on md?) on i686 was not a good idea due to
> issues running out of stack space.  I don't know if this has changed in
> any way, or if arm is better in this regard.  But that would be my
> concern.  I think RHEL6 doesn't support xfs on i686, and RHEL7 has
> dropped i686 completely it seems.

This is XFS upstream response to the question I asked about i686 concerns, and 
they do test it and support it, although there is a limit to 16TB file systems 
(not an XFS limitation per se, as you'll read). But then such large file 
systems on 32-bit kernels is also not considered a good idea anyway even if it 
were ext4 (which by the way has the same 16TB limit.)

http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2014-02/msg00927.html

ARM is valid, but the ARM folks say their installation is typically kickstart. 
But I even if that's their primary install method  (?) I wouldn't want the 
secondary GUI method to blow up on them just because of the default file 
system. So yes we kinda need to know through some testing.


Chris Murphy

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