On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 09:44 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-03-15 at 14:47 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > Can we please "fix" those people, who hate bodhi so much that they 
> > feel the need to submit updates with a low "karma: 1" threshold?
> > 
> > It just doesn't work and causes breakage too often. Broken 
> > dependencies and/or breakage at runtime.
> > 
> > Keep in mind that it takes some time for packages to be picked up by 
> > the world-wide mirroring system.
> > 
> > By the time such updates appear in the repositories, in bodhi
> > they are marked "stable" already or are even on their way into the 
> > updates repo. That makes it impossible to test them in time and 
> > leave feedback. It's too late.
> > 
> > Yeah, you want to rush out builds because you don't care. That sucks.
> 
> I think it can be a judgement call on certain packages. For example, I 
> maintain the Review Board packages which almost never get karma from 
> more than one person (and that usually only for whichiver Fedora or 
> EPEL branch that person is currently deploying to). Even at karma 1, 
> most Review Board packages sit in updates-testing until the timeout 
> passes.
> 
> Now, this makes sense for Review Board because it's a leaf package and 
> an application with a fairly limited audience. For packages in wider 
> use or those that are dependencies for other projects, I think having a
> higher threshold makes sense.

I agree that not all packages are the same; FWIW I wrote up some ideas
about this in a blog post:

  http://dmalcolm.livejournal.com/5013.html

("What variability exists within proposed updates to the Fedora package
collection?")

[that blog post is 5 years old now, where did the time go?]

> Hopefully, some of the new changes in Bodhi 2 will improve upon this 
> situation. I hear that's coming Real Soon Now.

Dave

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