Hi,
investigation of the first action point:  "dnf update" takes too much time in 
F25.
I made timestamps by my watch not by the system.

start of dnf update  09:48

[joerg@linux ~]$ su
Passwort: 
[root@linux joerg]# dnf update
Letzte Prüfung auf abgelaufene Metadaten: vor 0:06:22 am Thu Mar  2 09:41:58 
2017.
Abhängigkeiten sind aufgelöst.
================================================================================
 Package                    Arch   Version                       Paketquelle
                                                                          Größe
================================================================================
Installieren:
 kernel                     x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates   96 k
 kernel-core                x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates   20 M
 kernel-modules             x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates   22 M
 kernel-modules-extra       x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates  2.2 M
 libglvnd                   x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25  updates   89 k
 libglvnd-egl               x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25  updates   43 k
 libglvnd-gles              x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25  updates   31 k
 libglvnd-glx               x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25  updates  124 k
Aktualisieren:
 NetworkManager-openvpn     x86_64 1:1.2.8-2.fc25                updates  237 k
 NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome
                            x86_64 1:1.2.8-2.fc25                updates   91 k
 audit                      x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates  243 k
 audit-libs                 x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates  106 k
 audit-libs-python          x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates   77 k
 audit-libs-python3         x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates   76 k
 breeze-icon-theme          noarch 5.31.0-1.fc25                 updates  8.3 M
 copy-jdk-configs           noarch 2.2-2.fc25                    updates   19 k
 fedora-repos               noarch 25-2                          updates   88 k
 gnome-autoar               x86_64 0.2.0-1.fc25                  updates   49 k
 gnome-terminal             x86_64 3.22.1-5.fc25                 updates  1.2 M
 gspell                     x86_64 1.2.3-1.fc25                  updates   81 k
 gstreamer1                 x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.2 M
 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free
                            x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.8 M
 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-gtk
                            x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates   32 k
 gstreamer1-plugins-base    x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.5 M
 gstreamer1-plugins-good    x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  2.0 M
 ibus-typing-booster        noarch 1.5.22-1.fc25                 updates  3.8 M
 kde-style-breeze           x86_64 5.8.6-1.fc25                  updates  179 k
 kernel-headers             x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates  1.1 M
 kf5-filesystem             x86_64 5.31.0-1.fc25                 updates   15 k
 libblockdev                x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   85 k
 libblockdev-btrfs          x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   41 k
 libblockdev-crypto         x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   43 k
 libblockdev-dm             x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   41 k
 libblockdev-fs             x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   42 k
 libblockdev-kbd            x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   45 k
 libblockdev-loop           x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   39 k
 libblockdev-lvm            x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   48 k
 libblockdev-mdraid         x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   43 k
 libblockdev-mpath          x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   40 k
 libblockdev-part           x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   45 k
 libblockdev-plugins-all    x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   34 k
 libblockdev-swap           x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   39 k
 libblockdev-utils          x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   41 k
 libnetfilter_conntrack     x86_64 1.0.6-2.fc25                  updates   58 k
 libva                      x86_64 1.7.3-3.fc25                  updates   89 k
 mesa-dri-drivers           x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   11 M
 mesa-filesystem            x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   24 k
 mesa-libEGL                x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates  103 k
 mesa-libGL                 x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates  165 k
 mesa-libGLES               x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   22 k
 mesa-libgbm                x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   42 k
 mesa-libglapi              x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   50 k
 mesa-libwayland-egl        x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   25 k
 mesa-libxatracker          x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.4 M
 open-vm-tools              x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25                 updates  666 k
 open-vm-tools-desktop      x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25                 updates  159 k
 openssh                    x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                  updates  476 k
 openssh-clients            x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                  updates  657 k
 openssh-server             x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                  updates  464 k
 osinfo-db                  noarch 20170225-1.fc25               updates  134 k
 ostree                     x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25                 updates  179 k
 ostree-libs                x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25                 updates  255 k
 oxygen-icon-theme          noarch 1:5.31.0-1.fc25               updates   29 M
 pciutils                   x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25                  updates  100 k
 pciutils-libs              x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25                  updates   50 k
 pcre                       x86_64 8.40-5.fc25                   updates  200 k
 pcre-utf16                 x86_64 8.40-5.fc25                   updates  190 k
 pcre2                      x86_64 10.23-2.fc25                  updates  210 k
 perl-threads               x86_64 1:2.15-1.fc25                 updates   58 k
 perl-threads-shared        x86_64 1.55-1.fc25                   updates   44 k
 publicsuffix-list-dafsa    noarch 20170206-1.fc25               updates   44 k
 python3-blockdev           x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   44 k
 python3-gstreamer1         x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  108 k
 python3-rpm                x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  105 k
 qca                        x86_64 2.1.3-3.fc25                  updates  451 k
 rpm                        x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  517 k
 rpm-build-libs             x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  121 k
 rpm-libs                   x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  304 k
 rpm-plugin-selinux         x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates   57 k
 rpm-plugin-systemd-inhibit x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates   57 k
 selinux-policy             noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25            updates  487 k
 selinux-policy-targeted    noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25            updates  8.7 M
 sos                        noarch 3.3-1.fc25                    updates  397 k
 systemd                    x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  2.8 M
 systemd-container          x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  412 k
 systemd-libs               x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  421 k
 systemd-pam                x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  178 k
 systemd-udev               x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  1.3 M
 texlive-base               noarch 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25       updates  1.4 M
 texlive-dvipng             noarch 6:svn40768-32.fc25.1          updates   57 k
 texlive-dvipng-bin         x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates   80 k
 texlive-kpathsea           noarch 6:svn41139-32.fc25.1          updates  159 k
 texlive-kpathsea-bin       x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates   56 k
 texlive-lib                x86_64 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25       updates  452 k
 texlive-metafont           noarch 6:svn40793-32.fc25.1          updates  134 k
 texlive-metafont-bin       x86_64 6:svn40987-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates  220 k
 texlive-tetex              noarch 6:svn41059-32.fc25.1          updates  118 k
 texlive-tetex-bin          noarch 6:svn36770.0-32.20160520.fc25.1
                                                                 updates   34 k
 texlive-texlive.infra      noarch 6:svn41280-32.fc25.1          updates  165 k
 texlive-texlive.infra-bin  x86_64 6:svn40312-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates   32 k
 tracker                    x86_64 1.10.5-1.fc25                 updates  1.4 M
 vim-minimal                x86_64 2:8.0.386-1.fc25              updates  517 k
 xdg-desktop-portal-gtk     x86_64 0.5-3.fc25                    updates  104 k
 xen-libs                   x86_64 4.7.1-9.fc25                  updates  635 k
 xen-licenses               x86_64 4.7.1-9.fc25                  updates  108 k
 xorg-x11-drv-wacom         x86_64 0.34.0-4.fc25                 updates  311 k
Entfernen:
 kernel                     x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates   0  
 kernel-core                x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates  53 M
 kernel-modules             x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates  22 M
 kernel-modules-extra       x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates 2.0 M

Transaktionsübersicht
================================================================================
Installieren    8 Pakete
Aktualisieren  98 Pakete
Entfernen       4 Pakete

Gesamte Downloadgröße: 136 M
Ist dies in Ordnung? [j/N]: j
Pakete werden heruntergeladen:
(1/106): NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome-1.2.8-1.f 387 kB/s |  40 kB     00:00    
(2/106): NetworkManager-openvpn-1.2.8-1.fc25_1. 512 kB/s |  61 kB     00:00    
(3/106): audit-libs-python3-2.7.2-2.fc25_2.7.3- 505 kB/s |  18 kB     00:00    
(4/106): audit-libs-2.7.2-2.fc25_2.7.3-1.fc25.x 141 kB/s |  20 kB     00:00    
(5/106): audit-libs-python-2.7.2-2.fc25_2.7.3-1 174 kB/s |  17 kB     00:00    
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[DRPM] systemd-udev-231-12.fc25_231-14.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig                
[DRPM] systemd-231-12.fc25_231-14.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig                     
[DRPM] texlive-base-2016-30.20160520.fc25_2016-32.20160520.fc25.noarch.drpm: 
Fertig
[DRPM] texlive-metafont-svn40793-30.fc25_svn40793-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: Fertig
[DRPM] texlive-texlive.infra-svn41280-30.fc25_svn41280-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: 
Fertig
[DRPM] texlive-lib-2016-30.20160520.fc25_2016-32.20160520.fc25.x86_64.drpm: 
Fertig
[DRPM] xen-libs-4.7.1-8.fc25_4.7.1-9.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig                  
[DRPM] texlive-tetex-svn41059-30.fc25_svn41059-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: Fertig   
[DRPM] tracker-1.10.4-2.fc25_1.10.5-1.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig                 
[DRPM] oxygen-icon-theme-5.29.0-1.fc25_5.31.0-1.fc25.noarch.drpm: Fertig       
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Gesamt                                          475 kB/s |  70 MB     02:30     
Delta RPMs reduziert 136.1 MB Aktualisierungen auf 69.9 MB (48.1% gespart)
Transaktionsüberprüfung wird ausgeführt
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Transaktion wird getestet
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  Aktualisieren    : libblockdev-utils-1.9-9.fc25.x86_64                  1/208 
  Aktualisieren    : texlive-base-6:2016-32.20160520.fc25.noarch          2/208 
  Aktualisieren    : systemd-libs-231-14.fc25.x86_64                      3/208 
  Aktualisieren    : gstreamer1-1.10.4-1.fc25.x86_64                      4/208 
  Aktualisieren    : audit-libs-2.7.3-1.fc25.x86_64                       5/208 
  Aktualisieren    : systemd-pam-231-14.fc25.x86_64                       6/208 
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  Aktualisieren    : gspell-1.2.3-1.fc25.x86_64                         102/208 
  Aktualisieren    : gnome-autoar-0.2.0-1.fc25.x86_64                   103/208 
  Aktualisieren    : fedora-repos-25-2.noarch                           104/208 
  Aktualisieren    : copy-jdk-configs-2.2-2.fc25.noarch                 105/208 
  Aktualisieren    : breeze-icon-theme-5.31.0-1.fc25.noarch             106/208 
 

timestamp    10:21



  Aufräumen        : libblockdev-plugins-all-1.9-8.fc25.x86_64          107/208 
  Aufräumen        : gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.10.3-1.fc25.x86_64       108/208 
  Aufräumen        : python3-rpm-4.13.0-6.fc25.x86_64                   109/208 
  Aufräumen        : gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-gtk-1.10.3-1.fc25.x8   110/208 
  Aufräumen        : texlive-dvipng-bin-6:svn40473-30.20160520.fc25.x   111/208 
  Aufräumen        : texlive-dvipng-6:svn40768-30.fc25.noarch           112/208 
  Aufräumen        : gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.10.3-1.fc25.x86_64   113/208 
  Aufräumen        : tracker-1.10.4-2.fc25.x86_64                       114/208 
  Aufräumen        : ostree-2017.2-2.fc25.x86_64                        115/208 
  Aufräumen        : openssh-server-7.4p1-2.fc25.x86_64                 116/208 
  Aufräumen        : libva-1.7.3-1.fc25.x86_64                          117/208 
  Löschen          : kernel-4.9.7-201.fc25.x86_64                       118/208 
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  Aufräumen        : libnetfilter_conntrack-1.0.4-6.fc24.x86_64         205/208 
  Aufräumen        : kde-style-breeze-5.8.5-1.fc25.x86_64               206/208 
  Aufräumen        : gspell-1.2.2-1.fc25.x86_64                         207/208 
  Aufräumen        : gnome-autoar-0.1.1-1.fc25.x86_64                   208/208 
 
timestamp    10:37

 

 Überprüfung läuft: kernel-core-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64                   1/208 
  Überprüfung läuft: kernel-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64                        2/208 
  Überprüfung läuft: kernel-modules-extra-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64          3/208 
  Überprüfung läuft: kernel-modules-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64                4/208 
  Überprüfung läuft: libglvnd-egl-1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25.x86_64     5/208 
  Überprüfung läuft: libglvnd-1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25.x86_64         6/208 
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  libblockdev-mdraid.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                                          
  libblockdev-mpath.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                                           
  libblockdev-part.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                                            
  libblockdev-plugins-all.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                                     
  libblockdev-swap.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                                            
  libblockdev-utils.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                                           
  libnetfilter_conntrack.x86_64 1.0.6-2.fc25                                    
  libva.x86_64 1.7.3-3.fc25                                                     
  mesa-dri-drivers.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                         
  mesa-filesystem.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                          
  mesa-libEGL.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                              
  mesa-libGL.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                               
  mesa-libGLES.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                             
  mesa-libgbm.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                              
  mesa-libglapi.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                            
  mesa-libwayland-egl.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                      
  mesa-libxatracker.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                        
  open-vm-tools.x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25                                            
  open-vm-tools-desktop.x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25                                    
  openssh.x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                                                   
  openssh-clients.x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                                           
  openssh-server.x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                                            
  osinfo-db.noarch 20170225-1.fc25                                              
  ostree.x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25                                                   
  ostree-libs.x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25                                              
  oxygen-icon-theme.noarch 1:5.31.0-1.fc25                                      
  pciutils.x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25                                                  
  pciutils-libs.x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25                                             
  pcre.x86_64 8.40-5.fc25                                                       
  pcre-utf16.x86_64 8.40-5.fc25                                                 
  pcre2.x86_64 10.23-2.fc25                                                     
  perl-threads.x86_64 1:2.15-1.fc25                                             
  perl-threads-shared.x86_64 1.55-1.fc25                                        
  publicsuffix-list-dafsa.noarch 20170206-1.fc25                                
  python3-blockdev.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                                            
  python3-gstreamer1.x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                                       
  python3-rpm.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25                                            
  qca.x86_64 2.1.3-3.fc25                                                       
  rpm.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25                                                    
  rpm-build-libs.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25                                         
  rpm-libs.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25                                               
  rpm-plugin-selinux.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25                                     
  rpm-plugin-systemd-inhibit.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25                             
  selinux-policy.noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25                                      
  selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25                             
  sos.noarch 3.3-1.fc25                                                         
  systemd.x86_64 231-14.fc25                                                    
  systemd-container.x86_64 231-14.fc25                                          
  systemd-libs.x86_64 231-14.fc25                                               
  systemd-pam.x86_64 231-14.fc25                                                
  systemd-udev.x86_64 231-14.fc25                                               
  texlive-base.noarch 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25                                   
  texlive-dvipng.noarch 6:svn40768-32.fc25.1                                    
  texlive-dvipng-bin.x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1                       
  texlive-kpathsea.noarch 6:svn41139-32.fc25.1                                  
  texlive-kpathsea-bin.x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1                     
  texlive-lib.x86_64 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25                                    
  texlive-metafont.noarch 6:svn40793-32.fc25.1                                  
  texlive-metafont-bin.x86_64 6:svn40987-32.20160520.fc25.1                     
  texlive-tetex.noarch 6:svn41059-32.fc25.1                                     
  texlive-tetex-bin.noarch 6:svn36770.0-32.20160520.fc25.1                      
  texlive-texlive.infra.noarch 6:svn41280-32.fc25.1                             
  texlive-texlive.infra-bin.x86_64 6:svn40312-32.20160520.fc25.1                
  tracker.x86_64 1.10.5-1.fc25  

update finished at  10:37

Question:   Are these update times ok, tolerable, or is this worthwhile for 
filing a bug?

My system is the same for F24 and F25.
Laptop, 1.7GHz, turbo boost up to 2.7 GHz
F25/F24 on an USB 3.0 flash medium, connected via USB 3.0 to the Laptop
Network: Cable TV internet, download 50GB/sec

The other problems (USB connected disks, usb flash media), there I am possibly 
one of very few users, I will make these investigations next time and report.
Kind regards


 

 

 

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Von: Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org>
An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases 
<test@lists.fedoraproject.org>
Verschickt: Mi, 1. Mrz 2017 14:45
Betreff: Re: F25 much more worse then F24, I hope F26 will be better

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:19:18AM -0500, Joerg Lechner wrote:> - last dnf 
update took far too much time> - shutdown process not tolerable, takes too much 
time.> - usb connection erroneous. i.e. after copying to flash medium or> 
external disk connected by an usb adapter in most trials, when I try> to eject 
the usb connected medium, there - after a copying process is> finished a long 
time ago - comes the message "usb medium in use",> this for ever. Also after 
shutdown of F25 in some cases I had to> repair the usb connected medium with a 
new partition table. Things> like that are not nice.These things seem unlikely 
to actually be very version dependent andprobably are more to do with the 
specific configuration. The first twocomplaints are not actionable — the dnf 
problem might just be yournetwork, and without any detail, we don't know what 
is holding up yoursystem's shutdown.The third is likely a kernel issue, and may 
be something you can tune.Are you *sure* you don't have anything from the 
externel disk in use?The /sbin/lsof command can tell you.Have you tried typing 
"sync" at the command line before attempting toeject the disk?-- Matthew 
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