Doing these empirical experiments without digging into the code is kind of fun. I started wondering whether PMX could do the 16-tuplet in the last bar of Dieter's example. (I had a vague recollection there was a limit on the number of notes in an xtuplet...and there is, but it's 24 notes) Anyhow, the 16 notes take up 1/2 beat so are effectively 128th notes. When I first tried it I mistakenly spread them over 1/4 of a beat (g1x16 ...), making them effectively 256th notes, and believe it or not, PMX didn't choke but produced a beamed qroup with SIX beams! I may not be able to resist seeing if I can carry this any further.
--Don > -----Original Message----- > From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Don > Simons > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:02 AM > To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive' <tex-music@tug.org> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] 128th notes and rests in PMX? > > Dieter, your Beethoven example is an interesting challenge. Without > worrying about the internal hows and whys, I believe PMX as is could handle > the entire thing straightforwardly. That's because the only notes with 5 > beams (in the 4th and last bars) are xtuplets, and there are no single notes > with > 5 flags. However, there is one unrelated thing that PMX cannot do (without > inline TeX): reduce from 4 to 3 beams and back up to 4 in a single beamed > group. You can to go down to 1 beam and back up, e.g. [ a3 t g6 a ][ b a g f ]. > > One curious thing I noticed in the example: In the first beat of the last bar, > the last quarter beat has 6 notes and they're printed with 4 beams. In the > third beat, third quarter of the beat, there are also 6 notes but now only 3 > beams. PMX's default is 4 beams for this case, but you could get 3 with e.g. > [m3 g1x6 g g g g g ] > > --Don > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dieter > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:34 AM > > To: tex-music@tug.org > > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] 128th notes and rests in PMX? > > > > @ Dirk: I wonder whether you regard the Beethoven Piano Sonata in c- > > minor, op. 13 as repertoire. > > @ Don: I do not have the faintest idea, why and how you produce the > > 128th in the sample. In case you change your mind and find some time > > for > analyzing > > the problem, I would offer my time to help in the realization. > > > > It seems that the Lilypond people are quite active and that we are > > losing market to them. > > > > Regards, Dieter > > > > Am 14.12.2016 um 09:37 schrieb Dirk Laurie: > > > 2016-12-14 6:33 GMT+02:00 Don Simons <dsim...@roadrunner.com>: > > > > > >> This is not an unreasonable request. > > > I'll agree with that assessment as soon as someone can point me to a > > > composition regarded as more or less repertoire for a concert > > > pianist and containing 128th notes. Liszt, Scriabin, Rachmaninov, anyone? > > > > > >> So without completely revamping the timekeeping, basic 128th notes > > >> are not going to happen. > > > PMX is always going to have to stop somewhere, and stopping at 64th > > > notes is "not unreasonable". > > > > > > M-Tx, too, does timekeeping in units of 1/64 note. Without someone > > > else taking over maintenance of the source code, basic 128th notes > > > are not going to happen. > > > > > > Dirk > > > ------------------------------- > > > TeX-music@tug.org mailing list > > > If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to > > > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ____________________________________ > > Dr. Dieter Glötzel > > Im Rosengarten 27 > > 64367 Mühltal > > Tel.: 06151 / 360 82 72 > > > > ------------------------------- > TeX-music@tug.org mailing list > If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ------------------------------- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
