And James Jasek provided a good bit of the carbide as I remember! Mimi Jasek
Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 31, 2022, at 6:55 PM, Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Here in Texas we have an annual auction benefitting the good work of the > Texas Cave Management Association (TCMA - see: https://www.tcmacaves.org/). I > was the first auctioneer about 16 years ago, and a good time is always had by > all. > > For the auctions in 2018 and 2019 I offered a carbide-lamp-only trip for six > cavers to a long and mostly walking passage in Texas’ second longest cave. It > raised $1,500 the first year and $1,200 the second, as I recall. This item > was the finale of the auction and saw fierce bidding. > > The most fun was the trip itself. To be with younger cavers who had never > operated a carbide lamp, smelled one, blew into one to get it to flare up, > and to get a loud “pop!” when lighting one, was a joy for me. One caver said > to me after the trip, “It’s like every carbide lamp has it’s own personality: > one you blow into, one you shake, one you speak nicely to; they’re all > different” > > Cavingly yours, > > Bill Steele (NSS 8072) > Irving, Texas > >> On Jan 31, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Linda Starr <lstarr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Mimi, >> You should donate your carbide and carbide lamps to some grotto that will >> use them, maybe for a carbide-specific grotto trip, as the Sandia Grotto may >> be planning. Just a suggestion. Take it or leave it and >> Take care, >> Linda Starr >> >>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 7:50 PM Mimi Jasek <mjca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I’m with you Pete. Jim never went to Suunto - always Brunton. But then he >>> did not do much wet cave surveying, nor deep vertical stuff. Although he >>> will never go caving again, we still have lots of carbide lamps and some >>> carbide, along with our LED lights. I still love that smell! Lol >>> >>> Mimi Jasek >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jan 30, 2022, at 8:26 PM, P Lindsley <caverp...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Brunton’s also work well, but there is hardly anyone left that knows how >>>> to use one. >>>> >>>> Years ago 5 of us were surveying a mile in a wet suit stream passage in >>>> Colossal Cave, Ky. Roger Brucker and Alan Hill went to the “end” to survey >>>> back, Art & Peg Palmer and myself started surveying “in”. We made good >>>> time and bragged about it when we met the other team. Their story was that >>>> the Brunton was dropped in a muddy pool, too muddy to see the instrument. >>>> When they finally fished it out of the drink it was full of water. But >>>> they used their carbide lights to boil out the water, and when dry enough >>>> they started surveying. Can’t do that today with LED lights. >>>> >>>> My 3 Brunton’s still work, long ago my 3-4 Suuntos clouded up and were no >>>> longer useful. >>>> >>>> - Pete >>>> >>>>> On Jan 30, 2022, at 1:20 PM, John Lyles <j...@losalamos.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> George, thanks for sharing this. Ben Meadows and FS used to be >>>>> competitors. I'm glad at least one is still going. I just tossed my old >>>>> hardcopy catalogs from them the other day. Around 2006 we started >>>>> noticing that the face of Suuntos was getting cracked frequently. They >>>>> had changed to some different plastic fabrication. It's possible that the >>>>> earlier ones had a domed lens where the newer ones were flat. Many cavers >>>>> started gluing a thin sheet of transparent polycarbonate over the lens, >>>>> still admitting light of course. Another solution was to always keep it >>>>> in the pouch and add a thin piece or Micarta or FR4 circuit board >>>>> material 0.03 or 0.06 thick in the pouch on the face side. >>>>> >>>>> The Nat Park at Carlsbad was slow at adopting this approach and those of >>>>> us who broke our share of government Suuntos were intimately familiar >>>>> with the problem. We carried them in small Otter boxes but it was >>>>> inevitable that someone would be shooting a station in a crawl and >>>>> accidentally crawl to the next shot with it hanging from neck, to then >>>>> find that unmistakeable wet spot on their shirt with that oily fluid. It >>>>> wasn't abnormal to have one leaking out of 4 that we took underground on >>>>> camp trips, so extras were brought along. I think the CRO had a regular >>>>> annual budget item repairing them. >>>>> >>>>> On one trip we took a CRO staffer on the second trip up to OZ in >>>>> Lechuguilla Cave. Between three of us we had several Suuntos, despite my >>>>> suggestion that we bring extras. I think we managed to kill one, leaking >>>>> fluid, tried duct tape, hold it only face up, etc. We managed to survey >>>>> with a bubble and that finally changed the reluctance to install plastic >>>>> guards on the Park's inventory. >>>>> >>>>> Disto X2's also benefit from having a thin plastic sheet over the >>>>> display, as it can be cracked if pressed face against a rock, to ruin a >>>>> $500 instrument. I modified mine and the collection belonging to the Fort >>>>> Stanton Cave Study Project. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>>> On Jan 30, 2022, at 10:52 AM, George Veni <gv...@nckri.org> wrote: >>>>>> While many cavers are now using DistoX2s for surveying, many of us still >>>>>> have and use Suuntos. I was on trip yesterday and found the face of my >>>>>> Suunto compass had cracked, creating a large bubble inside the >>>>>> instrument that makes it hard to use accurately. Years ago, I’d send my >>>>>> Suuntos off to the Ben Meadow Company for repair. I hadn’t heard of >>>>>> anyone doing that recently, so I looked into it and am posting this note >>>>>> in case anyone finds it helpful. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ben Meadows is now part of Forestry Suppliers. And they do repair Suunto >>>>>> compasses and clinometers (among other things) for about $100 less than >>>>>> buying a new one. For more information, go to >>>>>> https://www.forestry-suppliers.com/RepairList.php. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> George >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ******************** >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> George Veni, PhD >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Executive Director, National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> President, International Union of Speleology (UIS) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> NCKRI address (primary) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 400-1 Cascades Avenue >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220 USA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Office: +575-887-5517 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mobile: +210-863-5919 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Fax: +575-887-5523 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> gv...@nckri.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> www.nckri.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> UIS address >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Titov trg 2 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Postojna, 6230 Slovenia >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> www.uis-speleo.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> www.iyck2021.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/fb6b1c7a-3aee-46eb-8ee4-e6e02bda0664%40losalamos.com. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/0A3F73C2-444D-4093-BBF9-BB96999349AA%40gmail.com. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/49D4621B-6D5C-462B-9A30-12F004F3CFEA%40gmail.com. >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
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