Her post is probably borderline, the defining bit for me is that it is intended as rude (rightly so), but it's just a small flame waiting to be fanned, and if I hadn't posted what I did, it would probably grow to a forest fire.
I haven't had time for caving either, between a full time job and trying to keep up on my hobbies and volunteer projects On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Joe Ranzau <jran...@gmail.com> wrote: > See, I don't think she flamed anyone as no names were named or enough > detail given to id the perps... > > I sort of agree with Sheryl but find David to be a total pain in the ass > ;-) > > I'm alright. Took a consulting gig with 100% travel. Been a lot of > work. This project is only through the end of the year, I'm going to want > the rest when it is over. > > How about you? Not much time for me to go caving... > > Joe > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Charles Goldsmith > <wo...@justfamily.org>wrote: > >> OH, I agree with what you just said Joe, however, it's off topic, per the >> rules set for this listserve. >> >> Please see rule #1 http://texascavers.com/rules.html >> >> Now, while I agree with Sheryl on a personal matter, I have to keep the >> peace, which I will do. >> >> Btw, long time no talk, how are you doing? >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Joe Ranzau <jran...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'd like to say that I think you are wrong ;-) >>> >>> Only though, because I feel cavers as a group do an excellent job at >>> self policing and pushing in or getting those outliers under control. We >>> have a small group on a witch hunt and Sheryl found a tactful way to call >>> them on their bullshit. >>> >>> This email list serves as the virtual campfire for the group, this is >>> part of the normal communal discourse that is unique to our virtual family. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> aside from my personal opinion on this matter (which doesn't matter), I >>>> have to stay neutral on most matters. This thread, as well as the previous >>>> one on this subject, are way off topic and do not belong on the list. >>>> Please take it to private email. >>>> >>>> If someone on the list offends you, you have two choices in my eyes. >>>> Hit the almighty delete button, or email the person making the offense and >>>> talk it out in private. >>>> >>>> If you have thoughts or opinions on this, do not reply all, but reply >>>> to me directly please. >>>> >>>> Charles >>>> Texascavers.com listserver administrator >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Sheryl Rieck >>>> <sheryl.ri...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am still receiving inappropriate emails from people bashing Locklear >>>>> about his visits to Mallory. I have known David for quite some time and >>>>> while he may not always say or do the proper thing (who of us do?), he is >>>>> not mean spirited and actually is a kind, caring person. I mean, I >>>>> haven't >>>>> been to see her. He went out of his way to visit. I have never known him >>>>> to say anything mean about anyone, but people sure seem to like to go >>>>> after >>>>> him. I realize at some point he and Mallory had a falling out, but I know >>>>> that there was reconciliation there in the same way I reconciled with >>>>> Mallory when we had a falling out. I wonder if Mallory remembers that, >>>>> that we made up, or does she still think we are mad at each other? I >>>>> believe Vickie said quite specifically that Mal's cognitive abilities are >>>>> not functioning at full capacity and she gets a lot of things mixed up. I >>>>> don't understand this continued bashing of David. I wonder what a sad, >>>>> pathetic life someone must have to wallow in this kind of vicious >>>>> behavior. And, I feel quite strongly that Vickie can manage her's and >>>>> Mallory's business quite appropriately and effectively without all this >>>>> (just judging by her posts). It is not anyone's business other than >>>>> Vickie's unless SHE specifically asked someone to intervene. I cannot >>>>> believe that the subject was even discussed with Mallory, which the emails >>>>> say it did and she was pissed at Locklear. She should be focusing on her >>>>> recovery and not being incited to anger by such hatefulness. If she >>>>> doesn't want him to visit, her mom will take care of it and this >>>>> whispering >>>>> and sniggering behind his back is sickening. >>>>> >>>>> I find these emails I am receiving to be hateful and hurtful for no >>>>> other apparent reason than someone wants to be an ass. I am very >>>>> disappointed in one of the people involved that I considered to be a >>>>> friend. I never realized that he gossiped and stirred up trouble the way >>>>> he has been doing in this situation. It has brought me to the unhappy >>>>> realization that he is not to be trusted, and is not the kind of person I >>>>> want to call a friend. >>>>> >>>>> I hope this will now stop and we can focus on Mallory and her >>>>> recovery, rejoicing in how well she is doing and not all this hate >>>>> mongering. >>>>> >>>>> Sheryl >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
