texascavers Digest 4 Nov 2012 19:25:35 -0000 Issue 1659
Topics (messages 20972 through 20986):
Mountain lion killed on highway by town of Medina
20972 by: Geary Schindel
20973 by: Jim Evatt
20974 by: Ted Samsel
20981 by: Julia Germany
20982 by: Ted Samsel
20983 by: Allan B. Cobb
20986 by: Louise Power
sighting
20975 by: Nico Escamilla
2012 TCR Vertical Winners
20976 by: goody twoshoes
7 Things I learned from Hurricaine Sandy
20977 by: wpick.cox.net
Re: texascavers Digest 31 Oct 2012 16:47:37 -0000 Issue 1657
20978 by: Mike Flannigan
20980 by: James Jasek
20984 by: Oztotl
TCMA-Rolling Oaks Work Day this weekend, November 10th
20979 by: ellie watson
Honey Creek Cave Tank Haul...2 Months to go! Haulers Needed January 19th & 26th
20985 by: ellie watson
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Be careful out there.
G
Here is a link to the Bandera Bulletin article; this lion was killed by a car a
few weeks ago. This location would be about five to ten miles east of the
town of Medina in northern Bandera County.
http://www.banderabulletin.com/news/article_145e60bc-1ec8-11e2-a92d-0019bb2963f4.html?photo=0
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Killed by the ENTIRE town?! This event is startlingly similar to Murder on
the Orient Express, where EVERYONE (except Poirot) took a swipe at the vic
until they all knew he was deader than Marley's doornail.
E ^v^
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From: Geary Schindel
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 3:52 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Mountain lion killed on highway by town of Medina
Be careful out there.
G
Here is a link to the Bandera Bulletin article; this lion was killed by a
car a few weeks ago. This location would be about five to ten miles east
of the town of Medina in northern Bandera County.
http://www.banderabulletin.com/news/article_145e60bc-1ec8-11e2-a92d-0019bb2963f4.html?photo=0
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Shoot, old broads at Arkie Blue's Silver Dollar in Bandera is standard...
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Jim Evatt <nmca...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Killed by the ENTIRE town?! This event is startlingly similar to Murder on
> the Orient Express, where EVERYONE (except Poirot) took a swipe at the vic
> until they all knew he was deader than Marley's doornail.
>
> E ^v^
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> -----Original Message----- From: Geary Schindel
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 3:52 PM
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: [Texascavers] Mountain lion killed on highway by town of Medina
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> Be careful out there.
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> G
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> Here is a link to the Bandera Bulletin article; this lion was killed by a
> car a few weeks ago. This location would be about five to ten miles east
> of the town of Medina in northern Bandera County.
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HI Geary!
Thanks for posting this. However, I don't think mountain lions get email, so
reminding them to be careful out there might not reach them.
What a beautiful cat, and so cool that he was strong and healthy, and his
carcass will be put to good use. I was not aware that they are in the Medina
area. And kudos to the person who was hit him for being kind enough to move
him off the road - if only they would have called authorities. At least he was
found in time to be a learning tool for those urbanites......
I went to the University of Houston and our mascot is the Cougar. Back in the
80's, he was kept in a concrete, air conditioned, glassed-in cage so the
students could appreciate having a live mascot. Just made me cry. And then
they had to dope him a little so they could take him to the games. These
creatures deserve so much better.
julia
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From: Geary Schindel <gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>
To: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 4:52 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Mountain lion killed on highway by town of Medina
Be careful out there.
G
Here is a link to the Bandera Bulletin article; this lion was killed by a car a
few weeks ago. This location would be about five to ten miles east of the
town
of Medina in northern Bandera County.
http://www.banderabulletin.com/news/article_145e60bc-1ec8-11e2-a92d-0019bb2963f4.html?photo=0
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We would see them at night between Uvalde and Eagle Pass and Crystal City
in the 1950s back when I was a kid.
Ted
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Julia Germany <germa...@aol.com> wrote:
> HI Geary!
>
> Thanks for posting this. However, I don't think mountain lions get email,
> so reminding them to be careful out there might not reach them.
>
> What a beautiful cat, and so cool that he was strong and healthy, and his
> carcass will be put to good use. I was not aware that they are in the
> Medina area. And kudos to the person who was hit him for being kind
> enough to move him off the road - if only they would have called
> authorities. At least he was found in time to be a learning tool for those
> urbanites......
>
> I went to the University of Houston and our mascot is the Cougar. Back in
> the 80's, he was kept in a concrete, air conditioned, glassed-in cage so
> the students could appreciate having a live mascot. Just made me cry. And
> then they had to dope him a little so they could take him to the games.
> These creatures deserve so much better.
>
> julia
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geary Schindel <gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>
> To: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Sent: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 4:52 pm
> Subject: [Texascavers] Mountain lion killed on highway by town of Medina
>
> Be careful out there.
>
> G
>
> Here is a link to the Bandera Bulletin article; this lion was killed by a car
> a
> few weeks ago. This location would be about five to ten miles east of the
> town
> of Medina in northern Bandera County.
>
> http://www.banderabulletin.com/news/article_145e60bc-1ec8-11e2-a92d-0019bb2963f4.html?photo=0
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I used to own land north of La Grange and it was common to see mountain lion
tracks along the creek and around the pond. I never saw one there but my
neighbors did. I did hear one at night a couple of times out there.
Allan
From: Ted Samsel
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 12:12 PM
To: Julia Germany
Cc: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org ; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mountain lion killed on highway by town of Medina
We would see them at night between Uvalde and Eagle Pass and Crystal City in
the 1950s back when I was a kid.
Ted
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Julia Germany <germa...@aol.com> wrote:
HI Geary!
Thanks for posting this. However, I don't think mountain lions get email, so
reminding them to be careful out there might not reach them.
What a beautiful cat, and so cool that he was strong and healthy, and his
carcass will be put to good use. I was not aware that they are in the Medina
area. And kudos to the person who was hit him for being kind enough to move
him off the road - if only they would have called authorities. At least he was
found in time to be a learning tool for those urbanites......
I went to the University of Houston and our mascot is the Cougar. Back in
the 80's, he was kept in a concrete, air conditioned, glassed-in cage so the
students could appreciate having a live mascot. Just made me cry. And then
they had to dope him a little so they could take him to the games. These
creatures deserve so much better.
julia
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From: Geary Schindel <gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>
To: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 4:52 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Mountain lion killed on highway by town of Medina
Be careful out there.
G
Here is a link to the Bandera Bulletin article; this lion was killed by a car a
few weeks ago. This location would be about five to ten miles east of the
town
of Medina in northern Bandera County.
http://www.banderabulletin.com/news/article_145e60bc-1ec8-11e2-a92d-0019bb2963f4.html?photo=0
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Hi Ted and all,
When I was still in school at UT Austin, several of us including Mills Tandy
and Tom White (yes, it was a very long time ago) took a trip to Big Bend NP and
camped in the basin. Several people wanted to hike down to The Window to take a
shot of sunset from there (a truly memorable sight). As it was getting closer
and closer to dark in the ravine we became aware that there was something
tracking us on the rim above.
AND THEN...A BLOOD CURDLING SCREAM!!!
A mountain lion had been following us along the trail. Since we're mostly still
here and mostly intact, you can assume we all made it to The Window and back.
On the way back, we were treated to a rising full moon. Also the subject of
several photographers.
Later, a skunk visited our camp to lick bacon grease out of a can which
somebody had forgotten to stow. We all lay very still and when the skunk had
finished his treat and left, we stowed the can and went back to sleep.
I believe this was also the trip where a goat tried to eat T White's straw hat
as we sat on the porch of the Terlingua store and had a beer.
Ah, for the good ol' days.
Louise
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Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 12:12:53 -0600
From: t.b.sam...@gmail.com
To: germa...@aol.com
CC: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mountain lion killed on highway by town of Medina
We would see them at night between Uvalde and Eagle Pass and Crystal City in
the 1950s back when I was a kid.
Ted
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Julia Germany <germa...@aol.com> wrote:
HI Geary!
Thanks for posting this. However, I don't think mountain lions get email, so
reminding them to be careful out there might not reach them.
What a beautiful cat, and so cool that he was strong and healthy, and his
carcass will be put to good use. I was not aware that they are in the Medina
area. And kudos to the person who was hit him for being kind enough to move
him off the road - if only they would have called authorities. At least he was
found in time to be a learning tool for those urbanites......
I went to the University of Houston and our mascot is the Cougar. Back in the
80's, he was kept in a concrete, air conditioned, glassed-in cage so the
students could appreciate having a live mascot. Just made me cry. And then
they had to dope him a little so they could take him to the games. These
creatures deserve so much better.
julia
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From: Geary Schindel <gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>
To: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 4:52 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Mountain lion killed on highway by town of Medina
Be careful out there.
G
Here is a link to the Bandera Bulletin article; this lion was killed by a car a
few weeks ago. This location would be about five to ten miles east of the
town
of Medina in northern Bandera County.
http://www.banderabulletin.com/news/article_145e60bc-1ec8-11e2-a92d-0019bb2963f4.html?photo=0
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there was a caver sighting by a friend of mine, she saw a silver ford focus
hatchback on hwy 71 and Hamilton Pool rd... wonder who that was
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*Belated*
Congratulations to the 2012 TCR Vertical Contest Winners
Women's 30 Meter (Frog) Climb:
1st Place-Ellie Watson
2nd Place-Kris Peña
3rd Place-Vianne Euresti
Men's 30 Meter (Frog) Climb:
1st Place-Sean Lewis
2nd Place-Joe Datri
3rd Place-Galen Falgout
Women's 30 Meter (Rope Walker)
1st Place-Ramie Schweers
Men's 30 meter (Rope Walker)
1st Place-Carl Frommen
Thanks to all who participated. Also, to all who helped to keep time and book,
couldn't have done it without such gracious volunteers.
Also, much thanks to Galen Falgout for rigging up in the tree.
Special thanks to Whole Earth Provisions for whom we are grateful for
generousity
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Hello All
Here's an interesting article from a Survivor
http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2012/10/7-things-i-learned-from-hurricane-sandy/
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Ah - the western states. Where the concept of
distance has a whole different perspective. If
somebody from NV tells you something is a pretty
good trek, you better listen.
Straight-line distances from Ely:
Ely to Baker Creek System - 39+ miles
Ely to Whipple Cave - 51+ miles
Ely to Leviathan Cave - 105+ miles
Mike
On 11/2/2012 1:49 PM, texascavers-digest-h...@texascavers.com wrote:
I started caving in Nevada and I can attest to the arid climate and
also low evening temperatures.
On a brighter note a number of of caves near Ely directly correlate
to to several Texas classics for example:
Baker Creek System - This is the longest cave system in the state of
Nevada, it is a river cave with an awesome mud slide and scalloped
walls to admire. Aka Honey Creek.
Wipple(sp?) - this cave is a great introduction to verticle caving
with a short (-150ish) entrance drop and a long borehole passage that
extends roughly halfway through the cave until it nearly chokes and
then the going gets a lil tougher. Aka Deep & Punkin Caves.
Leviathan - This cave is a monstrous collapse and is also a
significant hike to get to and thinking about it I do not know of any
caves in Texas which can really compare... On another note while
hiking up to this cave you pass a large bomb which did not detonate
when dropped by the airforce.
I make no claim that these caves will be open and or advertised during
the Ely Convention I just thought I would give you all am idea that
there is definitely a reason to get underground at this convention.
Herman
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Check out Fort Stockton to Van Horn, Texas 118+ miles
On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Mike Flannigan wrote:
Ah - the western states. Where the concept of
distance has a whole different perspective. If
somebody from NV tells you something is a pretty
good trek, you better listen.
Straight-line distances from Ely:
Ely to Baker Creek System - 39+ miles
Ely to Whipple Cave - 51+ miles
Ely to Leviathan Cave - 105+ miles
Mike
On 11/2/2012 1:49 PM, texascavers-digest-h...@texascavers.com wrote:
I started caving in Nevada and I can attest to the arid climate and
also low evening temperatures.
On a brighter note a number of of caves near Ely directly
correlate to to several Texas classics for example:
Baker Creek System - This is the longest cave system in the state
of Nevada, it is a river cave with an awesome mud slide and
scalloped walls to admire. Aka Honey Creek.
Wipple(sp?) - this cave is a great introduction to verticle caving
with a short (-150ish) entrance drop and a long borehole passage
that extends roughly halfway through the cave until it nearly
chokes and then the going gets a lil tougher. Aka Deep & Punkin
Caves.
Leviathan - This cave is a monstrous collapse and is also a
significant hike to get to and thinking about it I do not know of
any caves in Texas which can really compare... On another note
while hiking up to this cave you pass a large bomb which did not
detonate when dropped by the airforce.
I make no claim that these caves will be open and or advertised
during the Ely Convention I just thought I would give you all am
idea that there is definitely a reason to get underground at this
convention.
Herman
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Sheeit, it's only 200+ miles to my own Deep & Punkin Caves Nature Preserve from
my home. And merely 580 miles on one single road to visit my step-daughter, one
way.
Sent cellularly.
-Don
On Nov 4, 2012, at 11:26 AM, James Jasek <caver...@hot.rr.com> wrote:
> Check out Fort Stockton to Van Horn, Texas 118+ miles
>
>
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Mike Flannigan wrote:
>
>>
>> Ah - the western states. Where the concept of
>> distance has a whole different perspective. If
>> somebody from NV tells you something is a pretty
>> good trek, you better listen.
>>
>>
>>
>> Straight-line distances from Ely:
>>
>> Ely to Baker Creek System - 39+ miles
>>
>> Ely to Whipple Cave - 51+ miles
>>
>> Ely to Leviathan Cave - 105+ miles
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
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Hello Cavers
Here is a reminder that the Texas Cave Management Association (TCMA)
will be having a work day this weekend, Saturday, November 10th at the
the Rolling Oaks Cave Preserve in Bexar County (northwestern San
Antonio). Volunteers are needed to dig debris and old ranch trash out
of the entrance of Niche Cave. We need people, buckets, and
cave-digging tools. Bring your own gloves, drinks, and snacks for the
work. TCMA will provide bottled water.
The cave preserve is located at 224 Laurel Ridge Lane, San Antonio, TX
78253. All visitors to the Preserve will be asked to sign a liability
waiver. Look for signs and park along the street. Meet at 10:00 am.We
should be finished with the work by 2pm or so.
I will be on-site if anyone wishes to enter the other caves on the
preserve (Chimney Cricket Cave, Obvious Little Cave, and World Newt
Cave) after the dig. Bring your own cave gear.
Please contact me off-list with additional questions. There is no need
to RSVP if you are attending. Just show up! If it is raining the
clean-up will be canceled and rescheduled for a later date.
Thanks for your support of TCMA and cave management.
Ellie Watson
TCMA Rolling Oaks Preserve Manager
509-899-0007
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Texas Cavers,
The Honey Creek Tank Haul Extravaganza is 2 months away and we need
cavers to help
haul dive gear on January 19th and January 26th for legendary
cave-divers Dr. Jean Krejca and James Brown.
This is an all-time-classic trip to an extraordinary cave and one of
my personal favorites! I am keeping the list of those interested
please let me know which dates you can make it. We already have 20
solid people signed up for each trip but we need many more!
Cavers are needed on January 19th to haul gear to Sump 1 for Jean and
James to begin their 2-day underground camp/exploration. On January
26th, cavers are needed to go to Sump 1 and haul gear out of the cave.
Camping is available both weekends and we will enter the cave around
9am.
Honey Creek is a water cave and you will need a wetsuit and harness
with d-ring to be lowered on cable down a man-made shaft. I recommend
flotation and water-tight food containers. The trip to the sump
typically takes 6 hours and includes walking, salamandering, crawling,
and "The Mud and The Crud". The trip is challenging but very fun.
Come for one weekend or both. This is a definite must-do trip for any
new caver and if you have already visited the cave, you know it's
worth seeing again.
Spread the word and please don't hesitate to ask me any questions,
Cavingly,
Ellie Watson
ellie.tho...@gmail.com
509-899-0007
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