texascavers Digest 12 Sep 2012 19:27:13 -0000 Issue 1625
Topics (messages 20683 through 20693):
Re: Knee Pads
20683 by: Fofo
20684 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net
20685 by: Alex Sproul
Paradise Canyon
20686 by: Kurt L. Menking
20687 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
Help wanted for group cave tours at Colorado Bend State Park, October 27th
20688 by: rafal kedzierski
Re: camera questions
20689 by: Geary Schindel
TSS work session
20690 by: Ron Ralph
Re: [PBSS] September Meeting Notes
20691 by: Bill Bentley
20692 by: Kurt L. Menking
20693 by: Joe Ranzau
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Dirty Dave's or Crawldaddies.
http://www.dirty-dave.com/
http://crawldaddies.com/
- Fofo
On 10/09/12 13:20, James Jasek wrote:
What are the most comfortable knee pads made to wear on the outside of
clothing.
James Jasek
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Get off it!! We ALL know that no true cavers wear knee pads!!
DirtDoc
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On 10 Sep 2012 at 15:20, James Jasek wrote:
What are the most comfortable knee pads made to wear on the outside of
clothing.
Crawldaddies
or
Dirty Dave's
Alex
--
Alex Sproul
NSS 8086RL/FE
NSS Webmaster
www.caves.org
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An article in the San Antonio paper says they closed the gates at Medina dam:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Medina-Lake-dam-gates-shut-in-effort-to-keep-some-3854566.php
Check out the pictures and you'll see a large sinkhole that is normally
underwater. There is also a very nice shot of Paradise Canyon.
I just talked to the owner of Paradise Canyon and he said the leaks around the
dams, and the springs along the banks of Paradise Canyon are still flowing very
well. The river is clean and clear as always. See you all at TCR this year.
Kurt
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Thanks for the update on Paradise Canyon, Kurt.
FWIW, I think that PC is the best TCR location that I have ever visited
and would like to see it remain there for several years.
I haven't been to all 30+ TCR's but, PC is much better than Flat Creek
Ranch, Honeycreek, and the ATV Park we had it at.
It's a long drive from Dallas, but, heck, they're all a long way from
Dallas!
Just my 1/50th of a dollar. Please send a SASE if you'd like a refund!
Mark
From: Kurt L. Menking [mailto:gi...@bcad.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:13 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Paradise Canyon
An article in the San Antonio paper says they closed the gates at Medina
dam:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Medina-Lake-dam-gate
s-shut-in-effort-to-keep-some-3854566.php
Check out the pictures and you'll see a large sinkhole that is normally
underwater. There is also a very nice shot of Paradise Canyon.
I just talked to the owner of Paradise Canyon and he said the leaks
around the dams, and the springs along the banks of Paradise Canyon are
still flowing very well. The river is clean and clear as always. See
you all at TCR this year.
Kurt
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Hi all,
This is Rafal Kedzierski, one of DFW cavers. Recently, I joined Friends of the
Colorado Bend State Park,
volunteer group dedicated to helping the park. At the request of the
park, we are looking to organize several group cave tours for visitors on
Saturday, October 27th,
through several of more tour friendly caves, like Circurina, Sweet, Lemons
Ranch Caves. I'm looking for few good cavers to help with the effort. Knowledge
of park is helpful but not necessary - I anticipate having at least 2 guides on
every tour - just interest and caving experience.
Stay at the conference center or caver's camp for the weekend included. I
anticipate some extracurricular caving activity afterwards as well.
Email me back if interested.
Rafal Kedzierski
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Guys,
Thanks for the advice, I ended up getting a Canon T3i and I'm real happy with
it. Used it for a road trip from Oregon, down the California Coast, through
S.F., to Yosemite, Mono Lake, Bishop, Death Valley, to Vegas and on to
Flagstaff were we left Aspen.
Got it from B&H Photo and they delivered it in time for the trip. Just bought
the camera body as I already had the lens.
Thanks for all the advice.
Geary
From: George D. Nincehelser [mailto:george.nincehel...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:28 PM
To: Geary Schindel
Cc: Allan B. Cobb; Pete Lindsley; James Jasek; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions
http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-T3-vs-Canon-T3i
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Geary Schindel
<gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org<mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>> wrote:
So, what are the advantages of a Canon T3 verses T3i.
It's not clear from the descriptions.
Geary
From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com<mailto:a...@oztotl.com>]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:24 PM
To: Pete Lindsley
Cc: Geary Schindel;
texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions
B&H is good Amazon is good too.
Allan
Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone
On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley
<caverp...@gmail.com<mailto:caverp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices, but
these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you will get
your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several decades.
Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably crooks. I am
sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your friends
recommendations.
- Pete
On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:
Pete,
Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the
web.
G
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Cavers,
There will be the usual gathering at the TSS office to file and look at maps
this evening. Let me know if you need directions or other information.
Ron
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Anyone know how to get Google to get this link off the Web?
See highlighted in red
My attempt to contact Google have gone no where.
This is what I wrote to Google in the report a problem section:
"Cave Locations should never be made public. This cave has now been damaged and
vandalized as a result of this thoughtless action by someone and Google has
allowed that to happen. Please remove this link at your earliest convenience."
Sincerely,
Bill Bentley
Past President of the Permian Basin Speleological Society
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From: Ormsby, Matthew A
To: p...@caver.net ; s...@caver.net ; geulves...@gmail.com ;
laura.e.l...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:50 AM
Subject: [PBSS] September Meeting Notes
The September Meeting of the PBSS began at 7:00pm with Bill Bentley, Tony
Abernathy and Matthew Ormsby in attendance. We were later joined by Kerry
Lowery, Patrick Ray and two of his friends Erik Ulrestad and Laura Liem.
A financial Report was not given because Walter was not in attendance but last
months report was 800.79 and there have been no expenses since then.
Bill gave a report about the upcoming Amazing Maze trip for the Permian Basin
Outdoor Club led by the PBSS. Emphasis was added regarding TCMA membership
requirements. The PBOC meets next Tuesday and the trip will be on September 22.
Any interested PBSS member are invited and encouraged to attend, please make
sure your TCMA membership is up to date. If you need directions please e-mail
me.
I gave a brief report about a trip to Ess Cave this past Saturday. Bill
recommended I mention in this remailer that the gate has been compromised and
needs to be repaired. Barry and Mike have been recommended for the job.
Currently, the cave can be accessed by anyone who knows its location. Thanks to
Google anyone that searches Ess Cave can find it. Bill is going to send Google
a request that the location be removed from its map but doubts anything will
come of it.
The TCMA reunion will be on October 20-21 at Paradise Canyon. I am tentatively
looking at getting permits to park caves on October 27th. I also hope to get
permits to the TCMA preserve in November after Thanksgiving.
The meeting was officially closed at 7:25 because of a commitment I had in
Odessa at 8:00 but most everyone else stayed and ate and probably talked about
caves.
Matthew
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Just for the sake of multiple complaints, I reported a problem regarding Ess
Cave as well.
I know several us GIS'ers locally have submitted errors and other problems to
Google maps over the past few years. By in large they have been very
responsive, and have in every instance resolved the issue, and responded
quickly.
Kurt
From: Bill Bentley [mailto:ca...@caver.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 11:46 AM
To: Texascavers Mailing List; s...@caver.net
Subject: [Texascavers] Fw: [PBSS] September Meeting Notes
Anyone know how to get Google to get this link off the Web?
See highlighted in red
My attempt to contact Google have gone no where.
This is what I wrote to Google in the report a problem section:
"Cave Locations should never be made public. This cave has now been damaged and
vandalized as a result of this thoughtless action by someone and Google has
allowed that to happen. Please remove this link at your earliest convenience."
Sincerely,
Bill Bentley
Past President of the Permian Basin Speleological Society
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From: Ormsby, Matthew A<mailto:matthew.orm...@usoncology.com>
To: p...@caver.net<mailto:p...@caver.net> ;
s...@caver.net<mailto:s...@caver.net> ;
geulves...@gmail.com<mailto:geulves...@gmail.com> ;
laura.e.l...@gmail.com<mailto:laura.e.l...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:50 AM
Subject: [PBSS] September Meeting Notes
The September Meeting of the PBSS began at 7:00pm with Bill Bentley, Tony
Abernathy and Matthew Ormsby in attendance. We were later joined by Kerry
Lowery, Patrick Ray and two of his friends Erik Ulrestad and Laura Liem.
A financial Report was not given because Walter was not in attendance but last
months report was 800.79 and there have been no expenses since then.
Bill gave a report about the upcoming Amazing Maze trip for the Permian Basin
Outdoor Club led by the PBSS. Emphasis was added regarding TCMA membership
requirements. The PBOC meets next Tuesday and the trip will be on September 22.
Any interested PBSS member are invited and encouraged to attend, please make
sure your TCMA membership is up to date. If you need directions please e-mail
me.
I gave a brief report about a trip to Ess Cave this past Saturday. Bill
recommended I mention in this remailer that the gate has been compromised and
needs to be repaired. Barry and Mike have been recommended for the job.
Currently, the cave can be accessed by anyone who knows its location. Thanks to
Google anyone that searches Ess Cave can find it. Bill is going to send Google
a request that the location be removed from its map but doubts anything will
come of it.
The TCMA reunion will be on October 20-21 at Paradise Canyon. I am tentatively
looking at getting permits to park caves on October 27th. I also hope to get
permits to the TCMA preserve in November after Thanksgiving.
The meeting was officially closed at 7:25 because of a commitment I had in
Odessa at 8:00 but most everyone else stayed and ate and probably talked about
caves.
Matthew
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The issue I saw is that someone made a custom google map with the cave
location and left it public. I use the custom maps for work or caving
trips all the time. The key is to make them private. You can still share
the maps but your locations and what not will not show up for the public to
see. The quickest resolution might be to find the map owner (Bill is on
it) and get them to make the map private.
Joe
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Kurt L. Menking <gi...@bcad.org> wrote:
> Just for the sake of multiple complaints, I reported a problem regarding
> Ess Cave as well.****
>
> ** **
>
> I know several us GIS’ers locally have submitted errors and other problems
> to Google maps over the past few years. By in large they have been very
> responsive, and have in every instance resolved the issue, and responded
> quickly.****
>
> ** **
>
> Kurt****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Bill Bentley [mailto:ca...@caver.net]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2012 11:46 AM
> *To:* Texascavers Mailing List; s...@caver.net
> *Subject:* [Texascavers] Fw: [PBSS] September Meeting Notes****
>
> ** **
>
> Anyone know how to get Google to get this link off the Web?****
>
> ****
>
> See highlighted in* red*****
>
> My attempt to contact Google have gone no where.****
>
> ****
>
> This is what I wrote to Google in the report a problem section:****
>
> "Cave Locations should never be made public. This cave has now been
> damaged and vandalized as a result of this thoughtless action by someone
> and Google has allowed that to happen. Please remove this link at your
> earliest convenience." ****
>
> Sincerely,****
>
> Bill Bentley ****
>
> Past President of the Permian Basin Speleological Society****
>
> ----- Original Message ----- ****
>
> *From:* Ormsby, Matthew A <matthew.orm...@usoncology.com> ****
>
> *To:* p...@caver.net ; s...@caver.net ; geulves...@gmail.com ;
> laura.e.l...@gmail.com ****
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:50 AM****
>
> *Subject:* [PBSS] September Meeting Notes****
>
> ** **
>
> The September Meeting of the PBSS began at 7:00pm with Bill Bentley, Tony
> Abernathy and Matthew Ormsby in attendance. We were later joined by Kerry
> Lowery, Patrick Ray and two of his friends Erik Ulrestad and Laura Liem. *
> ***
>
> ****
>
> A financial Report was not given because Walter was not in attendance but
> last months report was 800.79 and there have been no expenses since then.*
> ***
>
> ****
>
> Bill gave a report about the upcoming Amazing Maze trip for the Permian
> Basin Outdoor Club led by the PBSS. Emphasis was added regarding TCMA
> membership requirements. The PBOC meets next Tuesday and the trip will be
> on September 22. Any interested PBSS member are invited and encouraged to
> attend, please make sure your TCMA membership is up to date. If you need
> directions please e-mail me.****
>
> ****
>
> I gave a brief report about a trip to Ess Cave this past Saturday. Bill
> recommended I mention in this remailer that the gate has been compromised
> and needs to be repaired. Barry and Mike have been recommended for the job.
> *Currently, the cave can be accessed by anyone who knows its location.
> Thanks to Google anyone that searches Ess Cave can find it. Bill is going
> to send Google a request that the location be removed from its map but
> doubts anything will come of it.* ****
>
> ****
>
> The TCMA reunion will be on October 20-21 at Paradise Canyon. I am
> tentatively looking at getting permits to park caves on October 27th. I
> also hope to get permits to the TCMA preserve in November after
> Thanksgiving.****
>
> ****
>
> The meeting was officially closed at 7:25 because of a commitment I had in
> Odessa at 8:00 but most everyone else stayed and ate and probably talked
> about caves.****
>
> ****
>
> Matthew****
>
> </pre>The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are
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> use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the
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