Knutt, Thanks again for the heads up, Pajarito Grotto had our meeting last night and we will be sending in a statement to the BLM. I have also been working on an email to the NM Interagency WNS committee to follow up on the Nov 2010 meeting on behalf of SWR. Jennifer List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:04:34 -0700 From: knutt1...@yahoo.com To: blandev...@comcast.net; buec...@comcast.net; bels...@valornet.com; dbuec...@comcast.net; dgda...@nyx.net; fscsp.direc...@gmail.com; garrettljorgen...@gmail.com; bigredfo...@hotmail.com; bigredfo...@yahoo.com; j...@vla.com; geospe...@gmail.com; john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com; j...@lanl.gov; ll...@nckri.org; mike_bi...@nm.blm.gov; mbbi...@yahoo.com; caverp...@gmail.com; gypca...@comcast.net; wcwal...@zianet.com; vppoly...@msn.com; casto...@gmail.com; pagan...@comcast.net CC: garrettljorgen...@gmail.com; guinnes...@aol.com; sgoodca...@comcast.net; ringtailr...@yahoo.com; s...@caver.net; rksouthw...@yahoo.com; skin...@thuntek.net; hydrogeosc...@gmail.com; east29f...@gmail.com; rckee...@cox.net; jenniferboye...@msn.com; ringtailros...@yahoo.com; knutt1...@yahoo.com; jboyett...@comcast.net; lst...@hubwest.com; memb...@sandiagrotto.org Subject: [SWR] Upcoming BLM cave closure document. All, As many of you are aware, BLM has had a closure on 23 caves on public lands for the last 20 months. This closure is going to be looked at AGAIN in the next few months, and who knows what the decision will be. If nothing is done on the caving communities part, it will look the same - Caves will be closed for the next two years, again. I have brought the following documents to the attention of Chuck Schmidt, RFO Field Manager and Doug Burger, Pecos District Manager. They like what this could represent. I believe that a closure modified to look like the one that USFS region 2 is using is a step in the right direction to keeping caving relatively open, OK so you still have to decon. What the USFS's modified closure does different is it creates an exception to the closure for NSS & CRF members doing any work related to a MOU with the USFS. BLM has a MOU with NSS. This might be the ticket for us cavers to have an easier time getting into closed caves. I am personally getting tired of doing battle with the White Nose Committee for every trip that goes to a closed cave. Something has to change. This USFS agreement gives the decision of which permits get approved back to the local USFS office. Pay close attention to exception 6 PDF of new closure order http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5383210.pdf Web site for closure order http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/r2/home/?cid=stelprdb5386976 Working for BLM, I can't tell you what to do as the caving community, and I am already pulling many strings on this end. So, if the writing isn't already on the wall......then you should let Carl Pagano nominate you for something, (I hear he's good at that). Lastly, work with your local BLM office. The BLM Pecos District is the hub of NM caving. They want cavers caving! Please spread this information to anyone not on this email list. Knutt Peterson _______________________________________________ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr _______________________________________________ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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