Chris, 
    The campfire on cave trips?, which is currently substituted for a lantern 
since 99% of Texas is under a burn ban.

I use and get mail from all the mailing lists that I can sign up for, I also 
provide a mailing list for the USA and all of the individual states as well as 
several specific caving areas. ... I also use facebook... I created a group 
page there for our grotto and let it run for a while and when I went back to it 
for something,  I discovered that since I left it wide open for membership it 
has several spam messages on it, I deleted them and the offending members and 
now it is a closed group. rarely does anyone use it for any PBSS related 
communicating.
I am signed up for the NSS Cave Chat and NSS forums but I tended to lose 
interest after a while. I found it kind of cumbersome to navigate and the folks 
that I wanted to chat with or knew were not on there and wouldn't sign up fro 
what ever reason.

Locklear is always trying out new social media places and is always trying to 
get everyone to switch over, I won't do that because I find that until it 
catches on like facebook has done, you will be alone with a few others and not 
most of the cavers you really needed to chat or link up with. 
All in all our grotto uses the PBSS mailing list as a primary means of 
communicating. Others are just individual emails.
There are pros and cons to all of them. I say use all you can tolerate and 
stick with them, sure there is no cave related drivel that goes on, usually it 
don't last long because someone usually hollers enough is enough and it gets 
quiet for a while... 
My advice is that I wouldn't limit myself to just one source.

http://www.caver.net/mail.html  (my cave related email lists) 


Bill
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris Vreeland 
  To: texas cavers 
  Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law


  I'm somewhat Facebook-averse, thought I'm not opposed to "Social Media," per 
se. Is there another "place" where cavers gather online? The NSS forums seem 
pretty slow most of the time, and I never see any Texans posting there. I was a 
member of the UT Grotto (I think?) Facebook Group for a while, but quit it 
after a while when I got sick of the notifications. None of them seemed 
particularly caving-related, either. So. Serious question. What am I missing 
that's Texas Caving-specific on line besides this here listserve and the UT 
Grotto Facebook group? I might re-join the Facebook group if that's really 
where all the action is.


  Chris, Entrance Caver's Grotto Charter Member Emeritus. 


  On Sep 1, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote:


    A social network is a place you can ‘hang out’ with your friends, a bit 
like someone’s virtual campfire, and be bombarded by advertising keyed off what 
you type into the system. The sole reason they exist is to sell you stuff, even 
if you’ve never bought anything off of there.

    Ie. it’s a bit of an advancement on CaveTex where all you get bombarded 
with is advertisements for LED lights, off-road vehicles and miscellaneous 
(supposed) caving events to attend ;-)

    --Stefan



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