Well said Fritz, we have the same problem at the Kentucky  Speleofest. 
There are two caving preserves in Kentucky that are supported  by caving 
events. 
For every person who goes out of their way not to pay takes  away money 
that could be used the up keep, maintenance, improvements  of the preserves. 
Campgrounds are getting harder to find, much less rent for  groups like us. 
And there is also the cost of event insurance that cuts into the  profits. The 
bottom line is those people are enjoying the benefits and have no  idea or 
care about what it takes to host an event and what the net profits are  used 
for.  I've been following the Texas cave scene for several years now.  The 
TSA and TCMA are both great organizations that work to protect the caves of  
Texas.  I know a few of you personally and are friends with some of you on  
Facebook and only know rest of you from the here. My hats off to all  the 
great work being done in Texas. 
 
Steve Gentry
NSS 25136RL FE

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In a message dated 10/19/2010 12:32:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
fh...@townandcountryins.com writes:

It is  difficult for me to believe that a Texas caver would purposefully 
cheat the  supporting members of our organizations out of $ 35. to be a part  
of the  best caving event of the year. I don't understand why every caver is 
not a  member of TSA and TCMA as the cost is nominal. Some have expressed 
their  reasons, all of which are lame. Cost is not an issue. If you can 
purchase  related equipment and gasoline to attend, you can afford the 
membership 
fees.  If you arrived after hours and "forgot" to register later, you can 
still send  a check to Linda Palit. If you did this on purpose, you do not 
belong in our  group. Go cheat someone else. I will save this post for next 
year and Gill and  I will remind everyone to watch for those without a wrist 
band and ask them  why they don't have one.

It was a great event and thanks again to all  who worked to make it 
possible.

Fritz



-----Original  Message-----
From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On  Behalf Of 
Gill Edigar
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:26 PM
To: Allan  Cobb
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas  Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

If one had walked around the campground  as supper was being served
probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist  bands would have been
found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't  registered. TCR had
to pay their use fee but didn't collect any  registration fee to cover
it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the  future if you know
about um.
--Ediger

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at  2:33 PM, Allan Cobb <a...@oztotl.com> wrote:
> The registration  count was indeed 381 people.
>
>  Allan

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