Re: Re: [Texascavers] Why join TSA?

[tbsamsel]

Gill's messages are hardly long. Archimedes Plutonium & Serd$r Arg!c used to send long messages.

 

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Dec 17, 2009 08:37:18 PM, diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu wrote:

Better yet--if I volunteer to pay your dues, Gill, will you just join
the TSA and stop writing really long email messages that clog up my
inbox?

Diana

On Dec 17, 2009, at 8:28 PM, Linda Palit wrote:

> Why do I get the feeling you have decided this many times, and many
> years ago?
>
> And does this mean we are taking this discussion off the list for
> awhile?
>
>
> From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Gill Edigar
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 4:11 PM
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: [Texascavers] Why join TSA?
>
> The question has come up before: "Why should I join the TSA?" The
> statement has been made: "If it weren't for The TEXAS CAVER there
> would be no reason for me to be a TSA member." Both questions are
> destined to be asked again--and fairly soon, I think.
>
> Yet way before publication of The TEXAS CAVER was taken over by the
> TSA a couple of hundred Texas cavers were quite enthusiastic about
> joining--with no real material premiums being offered. What made
> them do it? What was the attraction of the TSA in their lives to
> make them fork over hard cash for absolutely nothing they could hold
> in their grubby, muddy hands? What is it that would make you do so?
>
> Was it just the camaraderie of sharing a social link with other
> cavers? Was it the sense of responsibility to the caver community to
> share and help solve common problems--problems of educating you and
> other cavers about proper landowner relations, of safety
> considerations, of learning or improved methods of cave surveying,
> of learning about new caving equipment or techniques, of taking and
> sharing photographs with other cavers, to find out about new caves
> to explore, to create a list of cavers to go caving with, to attend
> projects, to have an audience for telling one's caving adventures
> around a campfire, to attend the convention to hear talks about
> caves and caving gear and cave science or get laid, or just a desire
> to be a joiner? What was the Texas Region and later the TSA
> providing to cavers that lead them to join the TSA without a hard
> copy of anything other than a membership list? In order to try to
> get to the heart of that matter, I want to ask Texas cavers to
> answer that question themselves--and send me and the TSA Chairman
> your responses.
>
> Why are you a TSA member? Or, why are you not? What, beside The
> TEXAS CAVER, does the TSA provide for you in the way of goods and
> services and warm fuzzies and how might it make caving better for
> you--or worse, or not at all. Let's have some information--brief or
> in detail. We're sensitive to your emotions about TSA and Texas
> caving as well, so please include information about your feelings.
>
> The time will come, soon I hope, when the TSA will need to answer
> the questions, "Why should I join the TSA?" and "What has my
> membership in the TSA got to offer me as a caver?" Hopefully a long
> list of reasons to join the TSA will be generated by this request
> and it can be handed to those who want to know, or explained in
> person. What would you tell a new caver who asked you those
> questions? Remember, The TEXAS CAVER should not be considered an
> option in this poll.
>
> Along the same lines it would be good to know the reasons that
> several of you haven't joined or don't want to join the TSA. If that
> were known perhaps something could be done to address those
> shortcomings and make the TSA more attractive. Or, what would you
> like to see the TSA offer or undertake that it is not doing now?
>
> As a current non-member I would like for you as a member to convince
> me to join again--sell me on the TSA and its merits and its benefits
> to members. Or, you can tell me why I shouldn't. I want to know.
> Please take the time over the next couple of holiday weeks (I'll be
> in Mexico caving) to send me your reasons--for or against joining
> the TSA. It's information that could be valuable to the future of
> Texas caving.
>
> And while you're at it be sure to cc: Mark
>
> so he can have the information for future use by the TSA and the
> Texas caver recruiting program which I'm sure they will be
> interested in starting.
>
> I'll compile your answers and see if the pros outweigh the cons and
> hope to see you at the convention and renew my membership and write
> up a summary for The TEXAS CAVER to publish and all the cavers of
> Texas to see.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help and enthusiasm,
> --Ediger

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Diana R. Tomchick
Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)


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