Ditto! What is the unsubscribe link? I cannot believe a person from the
grotto I helped create could spew such venom and hate. My daughter
wonders why I will not take her to the meetings. I can show her one of
the reasons now in black and white. You do not have to believe in God to
follow the teachings of Jesus. Especially the part about everyone
getting along with each other. Goodbye to all my friends and
acquaintances, and good riddance to the rest of you.
Cave Softly,
Corky
Rick wrote:
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unsubscribe-texascav...@texascavers.com?
*From:* Travis Scott [mailto:tra...@oztotl.com]
*Sent:* Friday, January 11, 2008 10:42 AM
*To:* texascavers@texascavers.com
*Subject:* [Texascavers] Re:OT-Evolution
I have to chime in here and make a comment regarding the general
attitude and lack of respect of what seems to be many-a-caver on this
list...
After taking this conversation from being a rude belittling argument
and turning it into a nice pleasant discussion regarding evolution and
religion (which I think many people were glad to finally see, thanks
Brian), it has now been taken full circle to the offensive, rude, and
dogmatic. I don't understand why the people on Texascavers can't be
polite, respectful and intelligent, especially when it comes to the
possibility of severely offending some fellow cavers, no matter what
the topic, religious or not.
This conversation had actually matured from this sort of content and
now is back to crap again, thanks for that.
I am almost constantly amazed at how rude, arrogant, dogmatic, and
down right offensive "Texas Cavers" can be. I find it impressive that
these people think they are soooo right, that ANYONE who believes
something different is, let me quote, "stupid". This is a public
forum, can't people make the slightest effort to be polite and
respectful to each other? Do you people act this way at work, to
family, to friends? If not, why do it to your fellow cavers?
I do know of a good few folks that have actually been completely
turned off from and have quit caving by "cavers" that act this way,
specifically on this listserve too. By the way, there are also land
owners on this list, these are the people we need to respect and make
the biggest effort to show that we are somewhat intelligent,
RESPECTFUL and professional to. Piss them off and how will you ever
go caving (whats that?)?
On another note, I agree with Linda. This whole thing is way off
topic. This list has increasingly gotten worse about OT subjects over
the last few months and is getting quite frustrating. In fact,
another list was even been set up so people that really care about
Caving (whats that again?) can actually talk about caving and not have
to filter through this shit to find it..
Sorry, had to throw that out..
Travis
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Don Cooper <mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com>
*To:* caverc...@maverickgrotto.org
<mailto:caverc...@maverickgrotto.org>
*Cc:* texascavers@texascavers.com
<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>
*Sent:* Friday, January 11, 2008 10:06 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Evolution -- the facts and theory
OK. I am not going to try to convince anyone the earth is a
globe - and not flat.
Yet there are pea-brained people that think just that. Believe in
a Flat World? FINE.
If you aren't on the evolution bandwagon - If you think a magic
dude or specific plan was necessary to cause it all to happen -
FINE. You are limited.
Be stupid. I don't care!
Evolution is real. The creator is the mechanism itself. Old holy
presumptions are simply ignorant and why anyone holds on them is
NOT our problem.
Let's move on and just FORGET this creationism crap.
Let the apologist speak for the weaknesses of their own faith.
But I don't care to listen.
-WaV
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