We expect it.

--Don

> On Sep 1, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> Can old geezers play?
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Aimee Beveridge via Texascavers 
>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>> We used to set up a rebelay course.  We gave carabiners to everyone who 
>> completed it. It could be done this year.
>> 
>> The limitations: a site that has decent trees, volunteers to set it up and 
>> run it, and securing prizes.  Anybody interested?
>> 
>> -Aimee
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Aug 31, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers 
>> > <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Cons--
>> >
>> > The advantage of the traditional obstacle-course SpeleOlympics is that it 
>> > is a good spectator event at a specific location and at a particular time. 
>> > (It would be an even better one if the schedule was well announced and 
>> > adhered to.) Some of the components of proposed SuperSpeleOlympics not 
>> > good spectator events,especially CaveSim, and they'd be scattered around 
>> > the site.
>> >
>> > Any components that aren't already occurring separately would require 
>> > additional workers and might take help away from the existing contests.
>> >
>> > People would likely treat a rebelay course that is part of a contest as a 
>> > race for time, and that is not safe when complicated vertical work is 
>> > involved, if only because it might encourage bad habits in the real thing.
>> >
>> > With vertical and surveying components, it would tend to exclude new young 
>> > cavers, whose enthusiasm is what makes the traditional obstacle-course 
>> > race work.
>> >
>> > How would overall winners be determined?
>> >
>> > I imagine a lot of potential contestants would just think the whole thing 
>> > was more trouble and time-consuming than it was worth. It's supposed to be 
>> > a party, after all. How many people participate in more than two of the 
>> > traditional contests?
>> > ----------------------
>> > Seems like most of the components happen anyway, and people can just pick 
>> > and choose what they're interested in. Why try to make it overly organized?
>> >
>> > A rebelay course (or at least knot-passing and change-over, which require 
>> > simpler rigging) for training might be nice, but judging by the times the 
>> > climbing contest has tended to get its act together, I wonder whether the 
>> > talent to run an additional vertical thing is available.
>> >
>> > --Mixon
>> > ----------------------------------------
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>> > capable of doing before all the world.
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