Malaria is a parasite not a virus, different bird. We actually do pretty good job developing resistence to chickenpox, hence vaccination program wasn't deemed viable until 1990s. And vaccines aren't harmless - no autism significance as of now - but small but real possibility of demyelinating processes. Vaccine is completely effective in 40 percent of kids. Childhood varicella vaccinations are also likely responsible for adult shingles epidemic now - vaccine just isn't as good at long term protection. No need to worry - there are medication and vaccine for shingles now!! And more research is always needed;).
No such thing as no risk in investment - or medicine. RK > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 01:01:59 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Zika > From: texascavers@texascavers.com > > Develop resistance in the same way that we’ve done with malaria and > chickenpox? > > Thanks goodness for vaccines and anti-malarial drugs…which are still being > developed, due to problems with resistance. > > Diana > > ************************************************** > Diana R. Tomchick > Professor > Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry > University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center > 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. > Rm. ND10.214A > Dallas, TX 75390-8816 > diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu > (214) 645-6383 (phone) > (214) 645-6353 (fax) > > > On May 24, 2016, at 7:37 PM, texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: > > > > Your medical industrial complex is wanting you to write them a 1.9 billion > > dollar check for initial funding for Zika virus research and prevention. Or > > about 40 dollars for each of those households paying taxes. Few billion > > will follow every year from now on until story is forgotten by public 10 > > years from now. What's a few billions among friends? > > > > But this will likely not change anything. Zika will spread across southern > > us until it becomes ubiquitous and is population will gain resistence. Then > > likely 95% of complications will disappear. This will become just like any > > of hundreds of minimally pathologic viruses, with more to follow. Next year > > look out for Kiki virus - one that elongates fetal noses and prompts > > another emergent spending bill;). > > > > Cytomegalovirus and varicella invade brains of fetuses, Zika is nothing > > special. Dozens of other viruses grow in neuronal cultures - nothing > > special, except CV padding material. > > > > Messenger doesn't change the message. And it was signed;). > > > > RK > > > > > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > > > Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 22:27:10 +0000 > > > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Zika > > > From: texascavers@texascavers.com > > > > > > Just because you’ve already procreated doesn’t mean everyone else has, > > > Rafal Kedzierski. > > > > > > It’s ironic that you should be against more research, given your > > > background. > > > > > > Diana > > > > > > ************************************************** > > > Diana R. Tomchick > > > Professor > > > Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry > > > University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center > > > 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. > > > Rm. ND10.214A > > > Dallas, TX 75390-8816 > > > diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu > > > (214) 645-6383 (phone) > > > (214) 645-6353 (fax) > > > > > > > On May 24, 2016, at 5:22 PM, texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, living is scary and it ends in death, funny how that goes. > > > > > > > > Every new scary story just needs 'mo money' for 'mo research'. For that > > > > we just need 'mo taxes'. > > > > > > > > Look, when every potential mother aquites immunity, more than likely > > > > maternal fetal infections will cease. Sometimes you don't need no more > > > > 'mo'. > > > > > > > > That's coming from a physician and a scientist. > > > > > > > > RK > > > > > > > > > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > > > > > Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 21:43:41 +0000 > > > > > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Zika > > > > > From: texascavers@texascavers.com > > > > > > > > > > > Try telling a potential parent that Zika is something not to worry > > > > > > about and see how far that argument gets you. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps we should tell people in Zika infected countries to not get > > > > > pregnant? > > > > > > > > > > (Dons fireproof suit) ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Stefan Creaser > > > > > Staff Design Engineer; Physical Design Group; ARM > > > > > 5707 Southwest Parkway, Bldg 1, Suite 100, Austin, TX 78735, USA. > > > > > Direct: +1-512-314-1012, Internal: 11012. > > > > > Email: stefan.crea...@arm.com. Skype: stefan_creaser > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On > > > > > Behalf Of Diana Tomchick via Texascavers > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:39 PM > > > > > To: Cave Tex > > > > > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Zika > > > > > > > > > > > Microcephaly is seen in population in general, only about 1 in 100 > > > > > > mothers infected with Zika are affected. For comparison, about 40k > > > > > > people die in traffic accidents a year in brazil, 40K in US, 200K > > > > > > in India. Malaria kills 1 million people a year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but not every virus causes problems with neural development in > > > > > embryonic cell cultures. > > > > > > > > > > "Zika Virus Infects Human Cortical Neural Progenitors and Attenuates > > > > > Their Growth” > > > > > Tang, Hengli et al. > > > > > Cell Stem Cell , Volume 18 , Issue 5 , 587 - 590 > > > > > > > > > > For a freely available description of this research, > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/03/zika-virus-kills-developing-brain-cells > > > > > > > > > > The very last sentence of this description sums up the problem rather > > > > > well: > > > > > > > > > > "Researchers also still need to figure out how the virus crosses the > > > > > placenta and infects the fetus directly, something most viruses can’t > > > > > do.” > > > > > > > > > > If the population of Brazil is 205 million, and roughly half the > > > > > population is female (~100 million), and of that only 50% is of > > > > > childbearing age (50 million) and only 5% of that number plans to > > > > > have a child this year (2.5 million), and 1% of that number has > > > > > children born with microcephaly, that would be 25,000 children, if > > > > > all the mothers were infected with Zika virus. > > > > > > > > > > Let that sink in: 25,000 children born with microcephaly. > > > > > > > > > > So let’s assume instead that only 25% of the potential mothers are > > > > > infected with Zika virus and their babies have microcephaly. That > > > > > would still mean 6,250 children born with microcephaly. > > > > > > > > > > 6,250 children born with so little neural tissue that they will never > > > > > live independently, and probably will not live very long lives. > > > > > > > > > > According to the CDC > > > > > (http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/birthdefects/microcephaly.html), > > > > > > > > > > "Microcephaly is not a common condition. State birth defects tracking > > > > > systems have estimated that microcephaly ranges from 2 babies per > > > > > 10,000 live births to about 12 babies per 10,000 live births in the > > > > > Unites States.” > > > > > > > > > > That would be 0.02 - 0.12 % of live births in the U.S., a far smaller > > > > > number than 1%. > > > > > > > > > > "Zika virus, named after a forest in Uganda where it was first > > > > > isolated decades ago, usually causes only mild symptoms in people, > > > > > including fever and rash. But after the virus started spreading > > > > > across northeastern Brazil last year, doctors there noticed a > > > > > striking increase in the number of babies born with microcephaly.” > > > > > > > > > > This is exactly what epidemiologists are supposed to do, alert the > > > > > medical community to potential new health risks. Not all new viruses > > > > > and pathogens are as terrifyingly dangerous as Ebola, nor as > > > > > relatively ho-hum as Lone Star fever. One has a high risk of death > > > > > and the other can be easily treated with antibiotics. > > > > > > > > > > Try telling a potential parent that Zika is something not to worry > > > > > about and see how far that argument gets you. > > > > > > > > > > Diana > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************** > > > > > Diana R. Tomchick > > > > > Professor > > > > > Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry > > > > > University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center > > > > > 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. > > > > > Rm. ND10.214A > > > > > Dallas, TX 75390-8816 > > > > > diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu > > > > > (214) 645-6383 (phone) > > > > > (214) 645-6353 (fax) > > > > > > > > > > > On May 24, 2016, at 3:45 PM, texas cavers tc > > > > > > <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Just to provide a different perspective, only 1 in 5 even know have > > > > > > Zika related illness when they are exposed. It's not 'spiraling out > > > > > > of control' - it's new to North America, yes. It's likely one of > > > > > > many illnesses that go through populations and become part of the > > > > > > infectious tapestry that we all live in. Is anyone reading alarmist > > > > > > articles about Heartland virus or Lone Star fever? > > > > > > > > > > > > Guillan-Barre syndrome is secondary to number of viruses, it's > > > > > > nothing specific to Zika. > > > > > > > > > > > > Microcephaly is seen in population in general, only about 1 in 100 > > > > > > mothers infected with Zika are affected. For comparison, about 40k > > > > > > people die in traffic accidents a year in brazil, 40K in US, 200K > > > > > > in India. Malaria kills 1 million people a year. > > > > > > > > > > > > RK > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/305163.php > > > > > > Symptoms of Zika virus > > > > > > > > > > > > Signs and symptoms of Zika virus are vague and can last for up to a > > > > > > week. Diagnosis of the virus is typically confirmed with a blood > > > > > > test.1 > > > > > > Symptoms of Zika virus include:1,2 > > > > > > • Fever > > > > > > • Rash > > > > > > • Joint pain > > > > > > • Conjunctivitis (red eyes) > > > > > > • Muscle pain > > > > > > • Headache > > > > > > • Pain behind the eyes > > > > > > • Vomiting. > > > > > > According to the Pan American Health Organization (PAHO), only 1 in > > > > > > 4 people infected with Zika virus develop symptoms.5 In contrast, > > > > > > the CDC state the figure is 1 in 5. > > > > > > In the past, there have also been reports of patients developing > > > > > > Guillain-Barré syndrome following a Zika virus infection. > > > > > > Guillain-Barré syndrome is a rare but serious autoimmune disorder > > > > > > that affects the central nervous system.6 > > > > > > Infection with the Zika virus is rarely severe enough to warrant > > > > > > hospitalization, and it is rarer still for an individual to die as > > > > > > a result.6 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > > > > > > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > > > > > > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > UT Southwestern > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical Center > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The future of medicine, today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > > > > > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > > > > > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are > > > > > confidential and may also be privileged. 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