Yes as I recall the magazine was pretty good during the Vreeland reign.

On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 3:24 AM, Chris Vreeland via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> I was editor, or co-editor back in the mid-90's when we tried this, & it
> helped a little for the first few months & all the correspondents slowly
> drifted away from the idea mentally.
>
> I had lots of capable help from co-editors - Jay Jorden & Jim Kennedy in
> particular, & great proofreaders in Katie Arens & Joy Kennedy & a quality
> printer in Terry Raines, lots of help with mailing from Gill, etc. I'm sure
> I've left some people out.
>
> Even so, it was a difficult, time consuming task, & beating the bushes for
> material was the worst chore of them all. I wrote a small amount of it
> myself, just to have things to fill issues. I worked at it for about 3
> years total, & while I got compliments & thanks, I endured enough baseless
> criticism & pointless complaints that I don't think I'd go back to it
> mainly for that reason, especially in light of the fusillades launched here
> on cavetex in the last few days. (I briefly entertained the thought, then
> noped out after the one from Kunath.) Back then, one person even complained
> that one of my issues was too big & extravagant after I had decided to
> personally foot the bill for the difference between the budgeted cost & the
> cost overrun to print it. I got no response after pointing that out in a
> reply. That email exchange felt GREAT.
>
> No good deed goes unpunished, indeed.
>
> Chris Vreeland
>
> On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Mark Minton via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>   We actually did that back in the ‘90s. Every grotto had a correspondent
> that wrote summaries of trip reports given at their meetings and then sent
> them to the Texas Caver editor. Each TC issue had a section on Grotto
> Reports or some such, with a paragraph or two from each grotto that sent in
> something. I did it for UTG for a while. Seemed like a good idea to me, but
> I don’t think it lasted very long. Not sure why – I guess many
> correspondents got lazy, moved away, etc. Shouldn’t be hard to reinstate if
> interest is high enough, and it would be easier now with email.
>
> Mark Minton
> <mmin...@caver.net>
>
> mmin...@caver.net
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Oct, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
> To: Cavers Texas
> Another stupid idea of mine. I don't have a clue as to how many grottos
> there are or caver clubs. Each one should elect a scribe and send the
> e-mail reports to a central place. Editor in chief. You can send photos
> too. This is a picture of Crash Kennedy being eaten by Godzilla at Dimbulb
> Cave in  Lower Slobovia.
>
> Charlie Loving
>
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