Hi Daniel,

Have you thought about doing something old fashioned and making a phone call? 
The 2018 NSS Members Manual lists the name of Howard Hurtt as the contact 
person for the San Joaquin Grotto, phone number 559-243-0732. That’s what I’d 
do.

Bill Steele 
speleoste...@aol.com

> On Jun 25, 2018, at 11:31 AM, kliban100 . <danny68rami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I’m taking somewhat of a vacation in California. I located a grotto near 
> where I’m staying at and relayed a message to the grotto to see if they have 
> any activities going in while my stay here in central California. (San 
> Jaoquin Valley Grotto) But to no avail had I heard anything back from them. 
> And that was about a week ago. I’m not one to keep at it on trying to contact 
> them. I give them One chance and there is no reply then the hell with them. 
> And I thought all cavers were friendly to one another. But I guess not and it 
> depends on which part of the country they’re from. The other grottos that I 
> found online are a bit too far away for a drive unless I decide to attend a 
> meeting while I’m here. But I’ll do some hiking while I’m here but have to 
> decide where. But never again will I try to contact this grotto. 
> (Sorry for the negative review)
> 
> Daniel Ramirez
> dramire...@ymail.com
> Bexar Grotto (Hopefully they have me in their list since I paid dues last 
> October)
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