Apparently you didn't read my email. An option to reply is to call them. Which I did. It was a pleasant experience. They verified my info and asked what info I authorized to be included in the publication. They asked my if I wished to purchase a directory and I told them not at this time. And that was it. I'm proud to be a member of the NSS and am happy to include my contact info. Perhaps one day I might find someone I once knew through this effort. Perhaps someone will need a place to stay or help with a broken auto while cruising through San Antonio and I'm the only one listed. I'd be able to help them. I doubt the motives of the NSS are nefarious and the ownership of the company collecting the information is contractually obliged not to deceminate our information to any other entities save our own. The solution to not having your information compromised is to choose not to participate. All this pissing and moaning is petty and becoming tiresome. Just opt out. That simple.
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 4:04 PM Stephen Fleming <casto...@gmail.com> wrote: > It is a marketing thing authorized by the NSS. > > The NSS says it is costing the organization no money and the contractor > funds the effort from sales of the rather pricey merchandise. > > However, the NSS will get a cut of proceeds: "This is NOT a significant > fund raiser for NSS, thought [sic] we do get a small commission on sales." > > The percentage of return is not stated, and the postcard is disingenuous > in not revealing this financial arrangement. You have to search the NSS > website to find that tidbit. > > Regardless, I won't be calling or participating; the NSS knows how to > contact me and they already have everything they need to know. > > Allen's listing of the questions asked goes way beyond basic caver info > and seeks information the NSS has no business collecting. > > I put this thing in the same category as telemarketers. Unwelcome and not > tolerated. > > I did not opt-in for the NSS to release my contact information, even to a > contractor, for such a use. The fact that I can decide not to participate > pales beside the NSS misusing my personal data. > > Stephen > 13727 RL FE > > > > On 7/19/2018 14:25, Steve Peerman wrote: > > Allen, > It’s not a scam, but you are under no obligation to buy the product that > they are making. It is supposed to be an NSS directory of all NSS members > past and present. I submitted my information, but I didn’t buy the book. > It seems rather pricey to me. > > > On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Allen <siz...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hey all, > Just received a postcard from some publishing company about the NSS > members manual. Anyone else receive one? Its a yellow postcard with the > NSS logo on it. It has a title of "Verification of caver data" in all caps, > and a Po Box in Dallas Tx. > > I called the number on the card and the phone operator started asking some > odd questions about place of employment, phone numbers, email, marital > status, name of spouse, name of kids, grotto affiliation. Then at the end > they want you to send them a color picture of yourself, a bill would then > be sent out for two payments of $50 for the hard bound book. Or because I > am a member, would bundle a sweatshirt, and book bag, and a digital copy, > for two payments of $75... I didn't provide much info, but started > questioning it by the end. > > Anyone know anything about this? Is it a scam? Is the NSS publishing > the members manual in hardback? > Allen > > > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > <#m_-810940256098833883_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >
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