I recall some talk of a new entrance being tunneled at Gruta de las palmitas at a more convenient elevation. Some of "improvements" like this sidnt seem to be in line with the goals of the annual clean up efforts or vision of that team. Or did i make that up?
- Brian On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 6:32 AM Nico Escamilla <pitboun...@gmail.com> wrote: > Charlie, > > It was my recolection that the project was stopped because the cave was to > be remodeled, (tunnel built, visitor center, plastic walkways, road paved, > etc) and handed over to the state's secretaría de turismo. Being in the > hands of the state means more bureaucracy but Im fairly certain it can be > pulled off if theres interest. > > Nico > > El sáb., 2 de mar. de 2019 7:17 AM, Charles Loving <lovingi...@gmail.com> > escribió: > >> The city of Bustamante rewarded us with a feast every year we >> participated in the clean up. The leadership of the caver group met for >> planning sessions at Rune Burnette's house. They included Orion, Gill, >> Nancy, myself,(I was somehow designated the founder of the mission) Terry >> Plemons. Peter Strickland, and a few other worthies. It was usually well >> planned and a very interesting weekend. Lots or graffiti removal and step >> building and one year we gated the entrance. We had the help of the >> Monterey Boy and Girl Scouts and the Mexican caver groups. >> >> We stopped doing the project when it was decalred finished. The lady >> mayor of the town speechified and praised the covers. Some one hundred had >> shown up. I will post my photos of the event. Lots of side trips were >> carried out. >> >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 9:56 PM Nico Escamilla <pitboun...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> The last clean up trip happened in 2006, 13 years ago during presidents >>> day weekend. >>> >>> If theres enough interest maybe the project may be resurrected.. I know >>> that was the argument I used to get off trail a few years ago when a >>> certain someone kept everyone from going outside the tour boundaries. >>> >>> interested folks should start a new thread so as not to hijack this one. >>> >>> Nico >>> >>> El vie., 1 de mar. de 2019 8:14 PM, Charles Loving <lovingi...@gmail.com> >>> escribió: >>> >>>> Correct >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:10 PM PRESTON FORSYTHE <pns_...@bellsouth.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Precipicio >>>>> >>>>> I will jump in on this recap of a favorite old cave. >>>>> >>>>> Last time I was in Bustamente Canyon 6-8 years ago on Runi, Ron's and >>>>> Strickland's yearly clean up trips in Palmito I ask about the status of >>>>> Precipicio and it was closed, owned or run by the same organization that >>>>> operates Palmito. So be interesting to read Nico's update. >>>>> >>>>> When I arrived in Texas the fall of 1972 Precipicio had just been >>>>> "discovered." Not absolutely sure of the cavers who pioneered that hike of >>>>> several hours but pretty sure included Blake, Dan Watson and, I should dig >>>>> up his map-maybe John Graves. Graves turned out to be a good cartographer, >>>>> equal of Neil Morris. That group, w/o Neil, had recently surveyed the >>>>> upper >>>>> level above the drops. I was on the second survey which did the big room. >>>>> The third and last survey trip was by Hal Lloyd and me and we bottomed the >>>>> cave, following a lead of Blake's. Later, the tight vertical squeeze at >>>>> the >>>>> beginning of that lower level extension was "enlarged."...Mary Kay was >>>>> also >>>>> on the big room survey. >>>>> >>>>> On the hike down the slopes---the slopes in places were covered with >>>>> just the right size of small rocks, you could "ski" >>>>> down by running jumping and launching yourself, digging in your heals >>>>> at the risk of breaking something. No one was ever hurt. >>>>> >>>>> Apparently, the adventures rappelling from the entrance were the next >>>>> decade. >>>>> >>>>> At that time I think Precipcio not only had one of largest rooms in >>>>> the world, but was 20th deepest in Mexico. >>>>> >>>>> Preston Forsythe, Browder, KY....may have sent this twice? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Charlie Loving >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >> >> >> -- >> Charlie Loving >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >
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