George, You did good and several local people were able to attend because of your notice. I applaud your efforts to get the word out even if it was at the last minute. Ken
Sent from my iPad On Jun 8, 2019, at 9:20 AM, George Veni <gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote: I don’t see the point to this repeated criticism. I started my announcement with an apology for sending it at the last minute because it was clear that it would be too late for many people. I sent it because it may not be too late for some and I thought it would be good to include them. If my circumstances allowed me to send the announcement earlier, I obviously would have. If anyone has further complaints about my sharing information over lists designed to share information, please do so privately. George From: Jerry <jerryat...@aol.com<mailto:jerryat...@aol.com>> Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 06:01 To: George Veni <gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org>>; swrcav...@googlegroups.com<mailto:swrcav...@googlegroups.com>; Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [SWR CAVERS] Special Presentation at Carlsbad Caverns today! Well George, If it was important, why did you give us 4 hours notice before the meeting ? Even If I lived in Carlsbad, I probably wouldn't have noticed your email until it was either too late or had prior engagements. If you wanted to be inclusive, send meeting notices earlier. As it was, it appears as a last moment "oops" or worse, just covering yourself for planning in reverse. I believe the Region would like to hear of Zoe's results if she is around during the upcoming Winter Tech. I promise we won't give her 4 hours notice. Jerry Atkinson. -----Original Message----- From: George Veni <gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> To: New Mexico Cavers <swrcav...@googlegroups.com<mailto:swrcav...@googlegroups.com>>; Texas Cavers <Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com>> Sent: Fri, Jun 7, 2019 10:00 pm Subject: RE: [SWR CAVERS] Special Presentation at Carlsbad Caverns today! Why bother to post? I thought the reasons were obvious but since asked: * I don't have the e-mail address of everyone who might be interested in attending. * There are a notable number of people on the New Mexico and Texas e-lists within relatively easy travel range of Carlsbad who could make it with the short 4-hour advance notice I gave. * Many cavers outside of the immediate Carlsbad area travel regularly to Carlsbad, especially on Fridays, and they night be in the area and would miss announcements sent only to locals. * I believe it is important to be inclusive, not exclusive, in getting people news that might interest them. * I see no harm in sharing announcements, even if at the last minute, in case some might benefit from them. In the end, the lecture went well and the room was packed. I don't know if any people attended due to my announcement, but I noticed several who might have. George -----Original Message----- From: jerryat...@aol.com<mailto:jerryat...@aol.com> <jerryat...@aol.com<mailto:jerryat...@aol.com>> Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 15:51 To: George Veni <gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> Cc: New Mexico Cavers <swrcav...@googlegroups.com<mailto:swrcav...@googlegroups.com>>; Texas Cavers <Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com>> Subject: Re: [SWR CAVERS] Special Presentation at Carlsbad Caverns today! Jeez, George. Why did you even bother to post? Hopefully, we’ll get to hear more at the SWR Winter Tech. Jerry Atkinson. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 7, 2019, at 12:03 PM, George Veni > <gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > I apologize for this last-minute notice. If you are in the Carlsbad area this > afternoon, please consider a visit to Carlsbad Caverns National Park at 4 > p.m. for a free public lecture by Zoë Havlena. > > Have you ever thought about the green stuff growing near lights in show > caves? Folks call it "algae" but the proper name is "lampenflora." It is > unsightly, damages caves, and has been a problem in need of a solution for > over a hundred years. The National Park Service funded NCKRI to study the > situation, and we have been working with professors and students at New > Mexico Tech to come up with answers. Zoë's work covers the first of two > phases of the study. Attached is flyer with details. Feel free to share this > announcement and to come hear Zoë this afternoon and see what she has found. > > George > > ******************** > George Veni, PhD > Executive Director, National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) > and President, International Union of Speleology (UIS) > > NCKRI address (primary) > 400-1 Cascades Avenue > Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220 USA > Office: +575-887-5517 > Mobile: +210-863-6919 > Fax: +575-887-5523 > gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org><mailto:gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> > www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org><http://www.nckri.org> > > UIS address > Titov trg 2 > Postojna, 6230 Slovenia > www.uis-speleo.org<http://www.uis-speleo.org><http://www.uis-speleo.org> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.<mailto:unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.> > To post to this group, send email to > swrcav...@googlegroups.com.<mailto:swrcav...@googlegroups.com.> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/swrcavers. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/BYAPR06MB41655C76184795D886CE6617A0100%40BYAPR06MB4165.namprd06.prod.outlook.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > <winmail.dat> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. 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