A 4 hour trip from San Antonio would have been tough....OK, maybe impossible but if I would have happened to be near Carlsbad I sure would have appreciated the heads up. Thanks for keeping us in the loop George.
Mike Harris On Sat, Jun 8, 2019, 10:20 AM George Veni <gv...@nckri.org> wrote: > I don’t see the point to this repeated criticism. I started my > announcement with an apology for sending it at the last minute because it > was clear that it would be too late for many people. I sent it because it > may not be too late for some and I thought it would be good to include > them. If my circumstances allowed me to send the announcement earlier, I > obviously would have. > > > > If anyone has further complaints about my sharing information over lists > designed to share information, please do so privately. > > > > George > > > > *From:* Jerry <jerryat...@aol.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, June 8, 2019 06:01 > *To:* George Veni <gv...@nckri.org>; swrcav...@googlegroups.com; > Texascavers@texascavers.com > *Subject:* Re: [SWR CAVERS] Special Presentation at Carlsbad Caverns > today! > > > > Well George, > > > > If it was important, why did you give us 4 hours notice before the meeting > ? Even If I lived in Carlsbad, I probably wouldn't have noticed your email > until it was either too late or had prior engagements. > > > > If you wanted to be inclusive, send meeting notices earlier. As it was, > it appears as a last moment "oops" or worse, just covering yourself for > planning in reverse. > > > > I believe the Region would like to hear of Zoe's results if she is around > during the upcoming Winter Tech. I promise we won't give her 4 hours > notice. > > > > Jerry Atkinson. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: George Veni <gv...@nckri.org> > To: New Mexico Cavers <swrcav...@googlegroups.com>; Texas Cavers < > Texascavers@texascavers.com> > Sent: Fri, Jun 7, 2019 10:00 pm > Subject: RE: [SWR CAVERS] Special Presentation at Carlsbad Caverns today! > > Why bother to post? I thought the reasons were obvious but since asked: > > * I don't have the e-mail address of everyone who might be interested in > attending. > > * There are a notable number of people on the New Mexico and Texas e-lists > within relatively easy travel range of Carlsbad who could make it with the > short 4-hour advance notice I gave. > > * Many cavers outside of the immediate Carlsbad area travel regularly to > Carlsbad, especially on Fridays, and they night be in the area and would > miss announcements sent only to locals. > > * I believe it is important to be inclusive, not exclusive, in getting > people news that might interest them. > > * I see no harm in sharing announcements, even if at the last minute, in > case some might benefit from them. > > In the end, the lecture went well and the room was packed. I don't know if > any people attended due to my announcement, but I noticed several who might > have. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: jerryat...@aol.com <jerryat...@aol.com> > Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 15:51 > To: George Veni <gv...@nckri.org> > Cc: New Mexico Cavers <swrcav...@googlegroups.com>; Texas Cavers < > Texascavers@texascavers.com> > Subject: Re: [SWR CAVERS] Special Presentation at Carlsbad Caverns today! > > Jeez, George. Why did you even bother to post? Hopefully, we’ll get to > hear more at the SWR Winter Tech. > > Jerry Atkinson. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 7, 2019, at 12:03 PM, George Veni <gv...@nckri.org> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > I apologize for this last-minute notice. If you are in the Carlsbad area > this afternoon, please consider a visit to Carlsbad Caverns National Park > at 4 p.m. for a free public lecture by Zoë Havlena. > > > > Have you ever thought about the green stuff growing near lights in show > caves? Folks call it "algae" but the proper name is "lampenflora." It is > unsightly, damages caves, and has been a problem in need of a solution for > over a hundred years. The National Park Service funded NCKRI to study the > situation, and we have been working with professors and students at New > Mexico Tech to come up with answers. Zoë's work covers the first of two > phases of the study. Attached is flyer with details. Feel free to share > this announcement and to come hear Zoë this afternoon and see what she has > found. > > > > George > > > > ******************** > > George Veni, PhD > > Executive Director, National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) > > and President, International Union of Speleology (UIS) > > > > NCKRI address (primary) > > 400-1 Cascades Avenue > > Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220 USA > > Office: +575-887-5517 > > Mobile: +210-863-6919 > > Fax: +575-887-5523 > > gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org> > > www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org> > > > > UIS address > > Titov trg 2 > > Postojna, 6230 Slovenia > > www.uis-speleo.org<http://www.uis-speleo.org> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to swrcav...@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/swrcavers. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/BYAPR06MB41655C76184795D886CE6617A0100%40BYAPR06MB4165.namprd06.prod.outlook.com > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > <winmail.dat> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to swrcav...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/swrcavers. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/BYAPR06MB416560BB1A1DD896842AE9F6A0110%40BYAPR06MB4165.namprd06.prod.outlook.com. > > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >
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