And too little water. I think the convention should only be on Skype so we would stop burning all those fossil fuels to get there or a least ride a bicycle! Or hold it every year in the center of the caving universe, Central Texas , of course hosted by other states. Happy Fathers Day and Childfree Day to all!
<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 9:13 PM Charles Loving <lovingi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Too many people. > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 8:02 PM Carol W Russell <c.russ...@utexas.edu> > wrote: > >> Still, it seems there are things we can do, and must do, to slow the >> process. >> >> We humans need to change profoundly the way we live. >> It will take a large cooperative effort, at the individual level and at >> government levels worldwide. >> >> We need to stop fighting wars and stop overconsuming the world's >> resources, to preserve its natural wonders and wildlife, so that our kids >> will have the opportunity to enjoy nature and, yes, caving. >> >> Humans are inventive. Let's work on it. >> >> Carol >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 10:58 AM JamesJasek <caver...@hot.rr.com> wrote: >> >>> There is almost no doubt that our grandchildren will grow up in a >>> different world then we live in today. Our government has our country >>> totally and completely screwed up I just don’t feel like we got a chance to >>> survive I’m not so worried about myself but I’m definitely worried about my >>> daughter and my granddaughter >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> Sent from my iPhoneX >>> >>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Charles Loving <lovingi...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> *IPCC and the Green idea plans are based on the assumption that >>> greenhouse gases can be removed from the atmosphere. That technology does >>> not exist to scale needed at this time for obvious reasons of energy and >>> land requirements. Paleoclimate records easily show us that you aren't >>> going to simply stop global warming at +1.5-2 C by ending emissions (the >>> current carbon dioxide equivalent concentration is 500 parts of million; >>> 1700s concentration was ~275-280 ppm, even with other greenhouse gases). >>> The 1.5 C report last autumn suggested another 0.6 C of warming was locked >>> in based on recent emissions and we must be net zero carbon by 2050; but >>> this is based purely on emissions from *humans*, removal of carbon on >>> scales of hundreds of gigatons (basically removing what took plants tens of >>> millions of years to sequester...bind as solid matter via plant >>> growth...in *tens of years*...really? With what energy source...what land?) >>> and fast feedback sensitivity. Water vapor...loss of sea ice and >>> albedo...some effects from clouds...other feedbacks which are clearly >>> showing an exponential behavior are simply neglected in models. Even the >>> feedbacks which are easily seen and more quantifiable are accelerating much >>> faster than expected. The Permafrost is melting fast, methane is spewing, >>> the oceans are getting warmer, the circulation in the atmosphere has >>> changed. Are we on the road to extinction? Now that is a happy thought >>> isn't it. Our grand babies might be doomed.* >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Charlie Loving >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> > > > -- > Charlie Loving > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >
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