I want to add perspective. TeXmacs provides unique functions on top of a
fairly complete 'normal word processor'. Openoffice had at some point >100
paid programmers working on it [0] - for many years, Joris was able to
provide most of the functionality, and then some more (remember TeXmacs is
a typesetter), while essentially working alone and building a successful
career as a mathematician. That he wrote extensive documentation along the
way, always accessible from the program itself, available on the web (pdf,
html) and increasingly complemented by discoverable, self-documenting
interfaces, makes this feat even more impressive. TeXmacs is not one of
those programs where somebody is having fun coding while neglecting
documentation and expecting somebody to take care of it. Much to the
contrary, TeXmacs is well-documented since the beginning, and all this
documentation was always under free licenses.

Now, the conversation was rather concretely about Joris' recent book[1].
The book is a work of love to typography and scientific document creation,
and gives some additional perspectives on TeXmacs, but while I enjoy
reading it and learn new things, I recognise that most (all?) the practical
information inside it was available in various ways already. I do welcome
the prospect of the book being liberated in the future, but I also feel an
overwhelming gratitude to Joris for all the work that he has done above and
beyond what he needed for his own purposes -- in adapting the program and
explaining it -- all in free terms.

We could have an abstract discussion and conclude that a restrictive
copyright book is less desirable than a free book. This is also my
viewpoint, and I wish that we all will buy that free edition just the same
if/when it comes out, and also donate to the project [2]. But it would be
ungrateful to forget that in this particular case, the author already made
a long, consistent end exhaustive effort over years to document the program
under a free license.

Best regards,
Álvaro.

[0]
https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/08/biztech/articles/31sun.html
StarDivision had 200 employees when sold to Sun in 1999; I later read this
100 figure about the Sun time but I haven been able to find a citation.
Libreoffice started with >200 contributions, today they are countless.
[1] http://www.texmacs.org/joris/tm/tm-abs.html
[2] https://www.texmacs.org/tmweb/contribute/donations.en.html


On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 at 12:06, ederag <ed...@gmx.fr> wrote:

> Dear Joris,
>
> On dimanche 20 juin 2021 11:26:58 CEST TeXmacs wrote:
> > There is a fairly complete integrated manual that is also available in
> Pdf
> > form from our website.  Of course, further contributions are always
> welcome,
> > also on other types of documentation such as tutorials or videos.
>
>
> True.
>
> Thank you Joris for your dedication to free software.
>
> Hopefully others will reconsider whether pursuing this thread is the
> smartest move,
> especially when the 2.1 release is so close.
>
> Best regards,
> Ederag
>
>
>
>
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