I shall put a stop to the topic and this is my last post as there appears to be no possibility for agreement.I think I landed in the controversy,started by Karl Marx long back,that profit is just robbery.Wages and Profit are not same. YM
On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 2:46 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Sri YM > Before you harp on words please think what exactly those words might mean. > Profit and loss is Income and expenditure only. Suppose you were a lecturer > of English ( I presumed only ) in a college whose grade is A and there are > similarly qualified lecturers in Grade B ,Grade C and Grade D colleges, the > fees collected by those colleges and the pay structures for the > similar postings do differ. According to you, the college made profit or > loss; while all of you who shared a share under the nomenclature of the > remunerations only incurred income and expenditure, while such things > differed between similar persons. You only said there shall not be > darwinian accounting but only symbiotic accounting; but now you write the > accounts one for the college as Darwenian but shared booty is symbiotic?. > KR IRS 51122 > > On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 at 14:29, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < > markandeya101...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sir, >> My income is some one's expenditure.It is remuneration for my >> activity.There is no profit or loss there.Incomes and expenditures always >> remain equal.Income is not profit.It is remuneration to me and expenditure >> to the one paying me. >> >> On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 1:55 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I agree with your deduction. But without any malafide intentions >>> attributed to me, kindly answer, what were your income so far earned?. >>> Whose loss?. For work of one nature, there are different salaries paid; so >>> those different incomes have different losses; can we say that one who >>> earned more, committed fraud and so earned more by cheating others , who >>> incurred those losses?. For the winner killing is heroism; for the loser of >>> the person, it is grief. Plus and Minus are part of life. There cannot >>> exist a plus or minus without the complimentary factor. ASTI DENOTES NASTI. >>> In Chap 10 of the B G the opposites are discussed. But both the positive >>> and negative sides are in the same matter, not outside , hence the >>> existence is proved in which the non-existence is hidden. Tjherefore by >>> Physics or symbiosis it is inevitable to lose so others gain or >>> otherss lose for you to gain; if you say it is wrong, then what you did is >>> also wrong. KR IRS 51122 >>> >>> On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 at 12:04, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >>> markandeya101...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Sir, >>>> How do you justify the concepts of Profit or Loss when your income is >>>> my expenditure,which means that they are always and can only be equal? >>>> YM >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 11:20 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >>>> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Darwinian and symbiotic >>>>> >>>>> I enjoyed few lines: 1 your income is my expenditure.2 >>>>> Accountancy today is Social Darwinism, bluffed as representing the >>>>> efficiency or inefficiency of an undertaking. 3 Truth needs very few words >>>>> and the minimal neuron activity. But bluff needs unending verbiage, the >>>>> unending fight among the neurons, unable to accept the bluff and there >>>>> will >>>>> be the perpetual neuron storm. 4 symbiotic Accounting, which strives to >>>>> comprehensively cover, the useful and harmful activities of an >>>>> undertaking. >>>>> 5 making figures and numbers lie.6 veer away from. >>>>> >>>>> What are Darwinians? A theory that inherent dynamic forces allow >>>>> only the fittest persons or organizations to prosper in a competitive >>>>> environment or situation. Symbiotic is, denoting a mutually beneficial >>>>> relationship between different people or groups. Shortly UNRELATED AND >>>>> CLOSELY RELATED; A THEORY OF RELATIVITY. >>>>> >>>>> Opposites are the two sides of a coin; by spinning, one >>>>> cannot get both; one’s gain is the loss of another only. Economics is >>>>> simply that. Life is like that. You got that job because many lost it. You >>>>> got Your wife, only because the rest lost her(s). Pre-determined. Economy >>>>> is like the unseen atom. Where will it go? no one can guess; theory of >>>>> uncertainty; there is no formula for success; it is framed and believed as >>>>> so many foolishly believe the politicians and cine and small screen actors >>>>> as real. A few see it as a perception for that moment but read in between >>>>> the lines; all are read, well-read; but a few alone, see behind the stage. >>>>> Darwin believed and many till date believe the Darwin, after the success, >>>>> only the dynamic forces of the self-won it. But when they repeated the >>>>> same >>>>> move in another occasion, they lose. The world represented by mad people >>>>> say 1 one who succeeded as a hero; 2 one who lost later, as some problem >>>>> and better luck next time; 3 one who lost as a no use man; 4 one failed >>>>> again as “unlucky” 5 and when succeeded as “fluke: The tongue is very >>>>> powerful and will ask the brain to interpret and convey to the mind. >>>>> Hence, >>>>> Darwin is correct in the competitive world but failed totally in the >>>>> master-predictions. >>>>> >>>>> Again symbiotic, is relative to the person, society and the >>>>> earth. Unless beneficial, there is no use of being symbiotic. But again, >>>>> the weight of benefits, to all is again an utopia. Hence being symbiotic >>>>> is >>>>> also an utopia. Darwinian is fact of life. Symbiotic is that of a >>>>> sanyasis. >>>>> Darwinian is that of a karma yogi and Adharmic, desiring deceitful earth; >>>>> Symbiotic, is that of the Karma-sanyasis. Both are distinct and the latter >>>>> is not for this climate. Economy is mundane. And one’s loss alone can be >>>>> the gain of another. Truth definitely does not increase the blood pressure >>>>> so neurons work less. Symbiotic accountancy is not at all needed since, >>>>> where there is no one to lie, why there is an accountant and the >>>>> accountancy? Symbiotic relationship is a utopia and if it existed today, >>>>> there will not be any governance at all. Figures and numbers are true, but >>>>> how we use them is a lie. Number one can be from the front as well as from >>>>> the back; so calling as number one is to be really questioned further; and >>>>> rankings are classified and numbered later; so number does not do >>>>> anything. >>>>> It is as if people calling 100 as real 100 or 100K. And if we veer away >>>>> from there will not be any ranking. And all will ask the other person to >>>>> that chair which is unbelievable as on date. A fine refined thinking but >>>>> not pragmatic. KR IRs 51122 >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 at 07:43, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >>>>> markandeya101...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Mar*The Darwinian Accounting >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The basic fact is that your income is my expenditure. They are the >>>>>> two sides of the coin. Incomes must equal expenditures. Still we bluff >>>>>> that >>>>>> there is profit which means the excess of incomes over expenses or loss >>>>>> which means that the expenses are more than incomes! >>>>>> >>>>>> It means that when you make profit, you grabbed more incomes and >>>>>> shifted the corresponding expenses on someone else. Similarly when you >>>>>> sustain loss, you are being victimized by being made to pay the expenses >>>>>> of >>>>>> the profit maker, in addition to the expenses you have to bear. Or you >>>>>> make >>>>>> nature pay the expenses to facilitate your profit. >>>>>> >>>>>> Accountancy today is Social Darwinism, bluffed as representing the >>>>>> efficiency or inefficiency of an undertaking. No wonder every Public >>>>>> Sector >>>>>> undertaking continuously suffers from losses. Social Vultures, armed with >>>>>> political power, usually designated as Chairman or members of the >>>>>> governing >>>>>> Board, eat and bleed the Public Sectors. >>>>>> >>>>>> Truth needs very few words and the minimal neuron activity. But bluff >>>>>> needs unending verbiage, the unending fight among the neurons, unable to >>>>>> accept the bluff and there will be the perpetual neuron storm. The neuron >>>>>> storm happens in very large numbers of people, making trade and commerce >>>>>> without any social or environmental responsibility, the engines of social >>>>>> unrest. And you have large and hefty volumes to obfuscate away the basic >>>>>> contradiction called profit or loss. The deadly Darwinian war routine, >>>>>> conceals the escape of today’s accounting from its fundamental >>>>>> responsibility, to account for the effects on the environment, on the >>>>>> society, on the Ecology, on the pollution and poisoning of the air and >>>>>> the >>>>>> resulting basic loss to social morale because the language of the >>>>>> Biosphere, the smells messages filled air (the messages of God) is >>>>>> poisoned >>>>>> and made dysfunctional. >>>>>> >>>>>> What we need is symbiotic Accounting, which strives to >>>>>> comprehensively cover, the useful and harmful activities of an >>>>>> undertaking. >>>>>> But our very education sector occupied by the universities tries to make >>>>>> profit and is driven by the insensitive mechanization of perception, >>>>>> perception which must be essentially emotional and sensitive, based on >>>>>> breathing, smelling and sensing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Today, accounting is the standardized system of making figures and >>>>>> numbers lie. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nature is not Darwinian but Symbiotic. And nature is getting killed >>>>>> every day, while the Business Tycoons are making profit by polluting and >>>>>> poisoning nature. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can the Universities muster enough courage to take to symbiotic >>>>>> accounting and veer away from the present Darwinian Accounting? >>>>>> >>>>>> YM >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Mar* >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> *Mar* >> > -- *Mar* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to thatha_patty+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCKjBBwQxm%3DL-YgX1GCqctrBdR3u3Y6iO3mr0%3DGfDunemA%40mail.gmail.com.
