My dwear Gopalakrishnan, When I read u, "ME TOO FORGET ALL SENSES AND
ENGLISH ; it is not the matter but the spirit does matter; not prakrithi
but purusha; and to understand one must have brain well tuned. K R IRS
191223

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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 at 10:42
Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: CULTURAL QA 12-2023-18
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Narayanaswamy Iyer
<[email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>, Patty
Thatha <[email protected]>


Respected sir,

I think you are the only member fully going through Mr Rajaram's responses
and postings.
Some times I just skip  through. One thing I am sure- If I read fully his
postings and responses , sometimes pointing me, I will forget all English
grammar.
Gopalakrishnan

On Tuesday, 19 December, 2023 at 10:29:20 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
[email protected]> wrote:


Dear folks

Gross stupidity combined with ageing geriatic insanity and total lack of
schooling, learning, education has rendered KR ex-IRS 18 12 23 utterly
blind, as his congenital syphilis inherited from his sex-worker mother has
penetrated his brain.

It was he himself, not Sri Gopalakrishnan whom he demonises, who wrote:-

"*Ratite: (of a bird) having a flat breastbone without a keel, and so
unable to fly. {Narayanasamy to n*

*Know the meaning of keel}*"


The previous exchange was:-


"*The same mlechcha barbarian (i.e. KR ex-IRS) idiot thinks a keel is a
metal hinge connecting two wooden doors !*

"Had he bothered to think with the surviving remnants of his cement-head
and stony skull, he would have discovered that the albatross is a carinate,
not a ratite."

Once a mlechcha savage barbarian cement-brained stone-headed idiot, forever
a mlechcha savage barbarian cement-brained stone-headed idiot.  Incurable
and durable.

S Narayanaswamy Iyer





On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 11:36 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
[email protected]> wrote:

The barbaric naked Narayanasamy, pimp as usual due to his insenility,
accuses Gopalakrishnan who wrote ratite, not myself; and why did I give the
meaning of ratite; i said diplomatically; but Narayanasamy only called
Gopalakrishnan as "Had he bothered to think with the surviving remnants of
his cement-head and stony skull". Poor man he thinks it is aval; but
pounding the empty ural. Mutta Narayana, you do not evince interest to
learn even LKG to learn about Keel; Albatross is found in India idiot
Narayana and as a butler what you learnt in your british school rhyme,
(ofcourse failed even in that class is a different issue) you speak
thinking it is a west bird. G is another who may not even think what is he
writing; he was happy to learn from his quora ignorant Albatross is
something new. It is called ANDARANDA PARAVAI IN TAMIL, nAVA KUNJARAM IN
SANSKRIT; rAMESWARAM SEA HAS THE BIRD:"MADURAI: Two bird researchers have
recorded sighting of a light-mantled albatross (Phoebetria palpebrata) in
Tamil Nadu's Rameswaram. The bird was spotted on Anthoniyarpuram Beach, an
important spot for birds in the Gulf of Mannar region, on September 8, 2020
Muttalai muttale kamuruvar  Bye Narayana KR

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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 at 07:38
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To: iyer <[email protected]>, gopala krishnan <[email protected]>
Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>


Dear folks

The extreme incurable gross stupidity of unschooled, unlearned, uneducated
buffoon KR ex-IRS 18 12 23 will never cease.

He writes in his habitual drain-gutter-sewer broken English:-

"*Q3      What is the largest bird that is not a ratite?*

*KR    Have you seen Albatross? Ratite: (of a bird) having a flat
breastbone without a keel, and so unable to fly. {Narayanasamy to n*

*Know the meaning of keel}*"


The mleccha barbarian idiot has never come across "The Rime Of The Ancient
Mariner" by renowned "nature poet" Samuel Taylor Coleridge who describes an
albatross flying across the clouds, snow, and ice to perch on the mast of
the mariner's ship.


*The same mleccha barbarian idiot thinks a keel is a metal hinge connecting
two wooden doors !*


Had he bothered to think with the surviving remnants of his cement-head and
stony skull, he would have discovered that the albatross is a carinate, not
a ratite.


Ratites include ostriches and emus and other birds that cannot fly.


*The same mleccha barbarian idiot takes pride in advertising again his
paralysed left hand, infected with congenital syphilis from his prostitute
mother whereby he cannot reach the "w" button on his keypad.*


S Narayanaswamy Iyer

On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 6:24 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:

CULTURAL QA 12202318

Q1      What are some interesting facts you know about animals?

G     Vultures, often seen as mere scavengers, play a pivotal role in our
ecosystem that contradicts their grim reputation.( and more)

KR     Above young one west interest may be seen; but we are so advanced;
and at this age let us know all these akso:

ANIMAL KINGDOM: Chapter 4.24 - The Gridhra (Vulture) in the Epics

In the Ramayana, the Gridhra has played an important role in the form of
Jatayu and Sampati who helped Lord Rama in his search for Sita. Jatayu
sacrificed his life in his fight with the demon king Ravana who had
abducted Sita.

Sampati says,

tasmadaharaviryena nisargena cavanarah |

ayojanashatatsagradvayampashyamanityashah ||

“Monkeys through the potency of our food and by virtue of our nature are
strong. Vultures can always see to a distance of more than one hundred
yojanas.”[1]

Vultures were hovering in the Ariel region and a large flock of cultures
followed Ravana’s chariot in the Rama-Ravana War.”

ketamurdhanigridhrastuvilino dakshinamukhah |

nadannubhayatahparshvamsamagram shriyamaharat ||[2]

There was a vulture on the chariot of the ogre perched facing the south and
it was suggesting ill omen. The brother of Ravana, Kumbhakarna, experienced
auspicious omens. He saw “a vulture actually alighted on his pike as he was
marching along the road. His left eye twitched and his left arm throbbed.”

nishpatacagridhrosya shule vaipathigacchatah |

prasphurannayanamcasyasavgobahurakampayat ||[3]



Likewise the son of Ravana faced ill omens when he was fighting with Rama’s
brother Lakshmana.

kravyada daruna vagbhishcikshipurbhimanihsvanaman |

natadanimvavanvagurnacajajvalapavakah ||[4]

Hideous carnivorous birds emitted frightful cries with their tongues. No
wind blew at that time nor did fire burn.” In the Ramayana, the Grdhra is
said to be the son of Shyeni.

The vulture spreading its wings and paws and it is posed as if it is giving
out calls depicted on the flag of Ghatokaca. Another similar bird depicted
on the flag of the demon was called Alanbusha.

In Shantiparva of the Mahabharata, there is a story of a dialogue between
the vulture and the fox. A dead body of a child was brought to the cemetery
for funeral rites. At that time the vulture and the fox were present there.
Both of them tried to fool the relatives of the dead child because both of
them wanted to devour the corpse.

There are actually four kinds of vultures[5]. Vultures are kin to eagles
and also hawks. They have strong wings and fat bodies. They subsist on
flesh and fruits. They are skilled hunters. They have glossy bodies of
various colours and they are sluggish in nature. They breed during the
rainy season. A female vulture starts laying eggs she it reaches the age of
2 years. The young chicks are nurtured and protected by the mother. When
their chicks are born, their eyes remain closed. Slowly the eyes open and
they start growing. They traverse long distances. They like move in flocks.
Some varieties of vultures are terribly scared of water. They make
frightening calls. They descend on the prey with lightning speed and in no
time they finish off the prey. They have great appetites and they eat a
lot. Although they live in flocks they also fight among themselves.

Valmiki Ramayana . IV. 58.30a. VI. 57. 39[5]:Mrigapakshishastra
[mriga-pakshi-shastra] .II.26.211b, 217, 222b, 227,231b

II     Vulture in National animal Kingdom: New World vultures lack the
ability to perform songs like many other species of bird. Instead, they are
restricted to simple sounds, such as grunts and hisses.



Although bone forms a vulture’s diet for the most-part, there are some
species that prefer a more rounded diet. Feasting on a variety of nuts,
fish and other birds, both the palm nut vulture and the lappet-faced
vulture do well to defy their haunting stereotypes.

‘Urohydrosis’ is a process in which an animal urinates on itself in order
to cool down when temperatures reach blistering highs. However, vultures
also use this technique as a means to disinfect their legs of bacteria
following a feed on a rotten carcass as their urine possesses high levels
of acid.

As well as their urine, vultures also have extremely strong acids inside
their stomachs. These acids not allow help the birds to fight and destroy
lethal bacteria, but also help to break down the bones of the carcasses
that the birds devour, which contribute between 70-90 per cent of their
overall diet.

Thermals help these birds to reach incredible heights, most of which would
be deadly to other species of birds. A series of cardio-vascular
adaptations means that vultures are able to fly at heights where oxygen
levels are at their thinnest, with one particular Ruppell’s griffon vulture
reaching almost 11.5 kilometres!

As a result of the threats that vultures face, the first Saturday of
September is now dedicated to celebrating International Vulture Awareness
Day. These days are extremely valuable in educating people about the true
nature of these vulnerable animals, whilst allowing them to partake in fun
activities at the same time.



Q2      What are some simple observations which people fail to observe?

G    Einstein's law of itching. When your hands are coated with something
messy like butter or grease, any of your body part will begin to itch.

KR      Even as a joke Mr G cannot corelate; einstein and itching. Itching
is so simple not grease butter etc unless allergic; Itch is the dominant
symptom of a vast variety of diseases from cutaneous inflammatory
conditions such as atopic dermatitis to systemic, neurologic, and
autoimmune disorders such as hepatic or renal failure, multiple sclerosis,
or celiac disease. Recent studies have indicated that this frequently
ignored symptom can have a major impact on health-related quality of life.
It is recognized that antihistamines are not effective to treat most
itches. These observations have paralleled a much-needed increase of
investigation into the mechanisms underlying both acute and chronic itch
and will ultimately lead to new and effective therapies. Itch has been the
least understood and researched somatosensory modality. This is changing as
the growth of dermatologic and neuroscience-based research in the last
decade has allowed for a better understanding of the neuro- and physio
anatomical bases of itch. The importance of the immune system in mediating
cutaneous and neurogenic inflammation also contributes to itch but is
beyond the scope of this article. By understanding the pathophysiology of
itch, clinicians are better equipped to manage and treat patients with
itch. This article describes our current understanding of the
pathophysiology of itch.



G   Newton's law of queue.  You're standing in a queue and it is moving
very slowly, so you decide to switch to a different queue. As soon as you
leave that queue, it will start to move faster than the one you're in now.

KR       Another funny thought. Newton?  One who has no brain, only switch
queues, without seeing how slow the counterman works.



G   Hooke's law of rabbit hole. When you're in a hurry and need a tool,
you'll drop it and it'll roll to the least accessible corner.

KR        Hookes’s?   Only because he does not know how to work and possess
so much tension.



My note- Specifically when we try to take out a small tablet from the
folio, it will fall and move to an inaccessible corner in the flooring



G   Selmon's rule of I don't know. When you try to prove to someone that
something doesn't work, it'll. My note- About a year back I had been to my
co brother's home in Kerala  for his grandson’s upanayanam. The cooks
reported  any number of times they plugged, grinder not working, so we had
morning tiffin with iddali- sambar. After tiffin my brother in law  went
and inserted the plug, nothing done, grinder started working!!!

KR         Funny people like G and co.!!  Normal cook team comes prepared
with all sets of equipment even if current do fail; A lady knows how to
plug; reverse plug will not work; also loose connection ; and current if in
single phase and fluctuating in lower voltage, grinder pick up 2000 volts
suction will not start. So in emergency people without brain only attribute
with such words it did not and did later etc. And such will join in
Bhajans.



G     Kohli's rule of Ben Stokes. When you dial a wrong number, it'll never
be busy.

KR   Now I know ; mad caps pessimistic crowd.



Q3      What is the largest bird that is not a ratite?

KR    Have you seen Albatross? Ratite: (of a bird) having a flat breastbone
without a keel, and so unable to fly. {Narayanasamy to n

Know the meaning of keel} The location where the Albatross was spotted is
part of the Palk Bay and near the Gulf of Mannar, an 'Important Bird Area'
on India's southeast coast.

Q4      What was the best thing you were told that made a change in your
life?

KR          Oh again and again I had already written a lot

Q5      What are some interesting facts about pigs?

KR :       On Varaham I had written already. A bite on the snout by a more
venomous snake could kill them. Rattlesnake do not kill pigs as well as
humans. All snake bites will not kill.



Q6      What sounds extremely wrong, but is actually correct?

KR  How many temple submerge in India under water you know?

***A park in Austria becomes totally submerged in 30 feet of water every
spring.

My note- ***Most streets in entire Tamilnadu submerge in water during
floods.



Q7      What is your best advice?

KR    Help from some one who is so young; don’t we have better advice from
our scriptures? What is the use being iyer123?

KR IRS  181223

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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2023 at 12:49
Subject: CULTURAL QA 12-2023-18
To: Patty Thatha <[email protected]>, Iyer <
[email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>


CULTURAL QA 12-2023-18

All the below   QA are from Quora DIGEST to me  on   18-12-2023.

Selected quora answers by experts and generally interesting only are
included .Still they   need not be 100% correct answers.

Compiled and posted by R. Gopala Krishnan, 80,  former ITS  on 18-12-2023.

Q1      What are some interesting facts you know about animals?

A1      Victor Dirikebamor,Storyteller15h

Vultures, often seen as mere scavengers, play a pivotal role in our
ecosystem that contradicts their grim reputation.

These majestic birds are unique among birds of prey, for they are the only
birds of prey that do not kill. One could call them nature's clean-up crew.

They are the diligent custodians of the wild, meticulously stripping animal
remains to their bare bones. An act considered morbid is a critical
ecological service. Their contribution is nothing but profound.

Vultures possess stomachs with acidity akin to car batteries, a natural
defence that annihilates harmful bacteria and viruses.

In consuming the dead, they starve disease-spreading insects of breeding
grounds, acting as a natural bulwark against the spread of illness.

South Africa alone is home to nine distinct species of these creatures,
ranging in size but united in purpose.

Unfortunately, the narrative surrounding vultures often overlooks their
immense value. Feasting in the dead has given them a bad name.

This misconception, coupled with environmental threats, has led to a
dramatic decline in their numbers.

Indian vultures alone saw a staggering 97% population decrease in just 15
years, primarily due to the toxic effects of diclofenac, a drug used in
livestock that proves lethal to these birds.

As with most things on our planet, Vultures serve a purpose. Their survival
is not just their concern— it's ours too

Q2      What are some simple observations which people fail to observe?

A2      Prabhat Mishra, Observations are as follows 1y

Einstein's law of itching.

When your hands are coated with something messy like butter or grease, any
of your body part will begin to itch.

Newton's law of queue.

You're standing in a queue and it is moving very slowly, so you decide to
switch to a different queue. As soon as you leave that queue, it will start
to move faster than the one you're in now.

Hooke's law of rabbit hole.

When you're in a hurry and need a tool, you'll drop it and it'll roll to
the least accessible corner.

My note- Specifically when we try to take out a small tablet from the
folio, it will fall and move to an inaccessible corner in the flooring

Selmon's rule of I don't know.

When you try to prove to someone that something doesn't work, it'll.

My note- About a year back I had been to my co brother home in Kerala  for
his grandson’s upanayanam. The cooks reported  any number of times they
plug, grinder not working, so we had morning tiffin with iddali- sambar.

After tiffin my brother in law  went and inserted the plug, nothing done,
grinder started working!!!

Kohli's rule of Ben Stokes.

When you dial a wrong number, it'll never be busy.

Q3      What is the largest bird that is not a ratite?

A3      Laura Aanested,8h

The answer is the Wandering Albatross, due to its 11-foot wingspan:

The Wandering (or Snowy) Albatross can literally fly hundreds of miles
without flapping its wings.

The Wandering Albatross does mate for life.

Q4      What was the best thing you were told that made a change in your
life?

A4      Gurmeet Bishnoi, Studied at Master of Science Degrees2y

A saint visited his old friend after a long time.

He reached his home and saw that he is living a life of poverty. His friend
had two brothers. There was a fruit tree outside his house.

All three brothers used to collect fruits from tree and earn some money by
selling them everyday. This was their only source of their earning to eat
two meals a day.

When Saint reached their home, they did same thing. But that day they
couldn't earn enough money to arrange food for 4 people. Only two person
could eat food.

Two of his brothers denied to eat food by saying that they were not hungry.
Thus, Saint and his friend ate food. Saint was feeling pity for his
friend's condition but he didn't know how to help his friend.

In the middle of the night, he woke up and did one thing. He cut their
fruit tree and left their home. Next day when the three brothers woke up,
they were sad because this was the only means of their earning. Whole
village was saying that Saint was evil.

After few years,

Saint was again passing through his friend's village. So he gathered some
courage to meet him again. He was scared if people would beat him, but
nevertheless decided to visit his friend.

When he reached there, he saw that a big house had been built there.
Condition from inside was super. After seeing him, his Friend came running
towards him and said,

He : Initially we were angry at you but with time we understood as to why
you had cut the tree. We were living with that tree only, that's why we
didn't do hard work anywhere else. We were in our comfort zone but after
cutting the tree, we started hard work and we got success.

Que : What was best thing you were told?

Ans: Comfort zone is the enemy of success. To achieve great success, we
need to come out of this zone and work hard.

Q5      What are some interesting facts about pigs?

A5      Magnify Joel, Facts Finder on Quora Updated May 7

Pigs are one the few animals that many do not like. And that’s because of
the way they play with their bodies in the mud.

The reason is that Pigs can't sweat, they need help by staying in cool
places on hot days.

Also, Pigs are one of the cleanest animals. They keep their toilets far
from their living or feeding area.

Pigs are gentle creatures with surprising intelligence.

Studies have found that they're smarter than dogs and even 3-year-old
children.

And it will interest you that just as you sing to your babies, petting them
to sleep, Mother pigs also sing to their babies.

They dream and like sleeping nose to nose.

***Snake bite on pigs do not cause havoc on them because they have a lot of
adipose tissue (fat) and the venom doesn't/isn't able to reach the blood
stream where it would normally circulate through causing problem or havoc
for the pig.

The natural lifespan of a pig is 15-20 years.

My note*** Snake bite do not cause anything to pigs  is a new information
to me. However they eat pee of people is annoying. I am not sure whether
farm pigs eat pee.

Q6      What sounds extremely wrong, but is actually correct?

A6      Works at Power Grid Corporation of India Limited Updated 6y

Well, Even I didn’t believe it when I first read that. But Yes! The Crazy
facts that I  tell you’ll surely blow your mind.

Bangladesh has more people than Russia. Bangladesh (slightly bigger than
the size of New York state) has a population of 156.6 million. Russia has
143.5 million .

A Banyan Tree near Kolkata, India is bigger than the average Walmart. The
250-year-old Great Banyan tree has aerial roots that cover 3.5 acres of
land, which equals roughly 156,000 square feet, or 14,400 square meters.

The city of Chicago was raised by over a foot during the 1850s and '60s
without disrupting daily life.

There are more synapses (nerve connections) in your brain than there are
stars in our galaxy.Astronomers estimate that there are more than 200
billion stars present in the Milky way . That's a lot of stars.

North Korea and Finland are technically separated by only one country.

Heroin was once used to treat children's coughs.

Harvard University was founded before calculus was invented.

Alaska is the most eastern, western, and northern state in the United States

***A park in Austria becomes totally submerged in 30 feet of water every
spring.

My note- ***Most streets in entire Tamilnadu submerge in water during
floods.

Q7      What is your best advice?

A7      Gurmeet Bishnoi, Lives in Berlin (2023–present)Updated 3y

A pregnant deer in the forest was about to give birth to a child. She was
wandering in search of a safe place.

Then she saw high and dense grass on the river bank. She found that
appropriate place to give birth to the baby.

As soon as she reached there, she started suffering pain. At the same time,
the thunder clouds in the sky were hovering and lightning started. It was
about to rain.

When she saw at right side, a hunter was aiming the arrow at her.

Frightened, she turned to the left, then there was a hungry lion, ready to
attack her.

In front, the dry grass caught fire due to lighting in front and there was
a river in back side with plenty of water.

She was caught up from everywhere. She didn't know what to do!

Deer left herself in the void, didn't think of anything else and started
giving birth to her child. Look at the nature of nature.

Suddenly, Heavy lighting dazzled hunter's eyes and he left the arrow due to
this. His arrow passed by the deer, went into the eye of the lion, the lion
roared and ran away. The pouring rain started and the forest fire was
extinguished. Deer gave birth to baby.

Que : What is your best advice?

Ans : Even in our life, sometimes there are some moments when we are
surrounded by problems from all sides and are unable to take any decision.
Then, by handing everything over to destiny, we should focus on our
responsibility and priority. Ultimately God makes the final decision of
fame, waste, defeat, victory, life, death. We should trust him and honor
his decision.



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