CULTURAL QA 02202424 Q1 What is something someone who has never been poor wouldn’t understand?
KR Of course, these types of stories are across the web dime a dozen. Understanding poverty is neither a lesson nor a crime if unknown. Why should a King behave as a servant/; then he is unfit to be a KING. “Vinayam” shall not be misconstrued as effective equating with a fool; a lion is a lion; a crab is a crab; a worm is a worm; all are allowed to live. BUT the poor must bow his head before the KING only. Hunger is common to all; even for the KING. Dressing sense differ from people to people. SUKRA must be so stronger to become a KING as well as to dress so nicely. Money held is not everything. Spending it wisely is. Dhanam, I wrote in length a couple of days back; so, king can be extra ordinary in dhanam and dharmam. (do u know the difference?). Each is a character. As rich may not know the poverty, so also the POOR may not know anything about Dhanam also. Parkinson law is so simple; unto the level of the vessel is the water level. Q2 What is the story of Saraswathi Mata? KR Any story revealed? NO. Sarasvatī (सरस्वती) or Bhāratī is born from the mouth of Brahmā and is the goddess of speech and learning, the revealer of divine wisdom and the patroness of arts and sciences. She holds a Viṇā in her hand. She is also said to be Vagīśvarī and Brāhmī. Soḍḍhala while praying to Sarasvatī says, “Let the Goddess, the mistress of speech, bom from the mouth of the lotus-born God (Brahmā), purify the world the Goddess who witnessing simultaneously the whole of the literary world subsists in the mind’s eye of the poet like its pupil.” सरस्वतीं देवयन्तो हवन्ते सरस्वतीमध्वरे तायमाने । सरस्वतीं सुकृतो अह्वयन्त सरस्वती दाशुषे वार्यं दात् ॥ RV 10.17.7 sarasvatīṃ devayanto havante sarasvatīm adhvare tāyamāne | sarasvatīṃ sukṛto ahvayanta sarasvatī dāśuṣe vāryaṃ dāt || “The devout invoke Sarasvatī <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/sarasvati#hinduism>; they worship Sarasvatī at the strewn sacrifice; the virtuous call uponSarasvatī; may Sarasvatī bestow blessings upon the donor (of the oblation).” In the *Ṛgveda*, though, Sarasvatī appears as a river goddess, but, she loses her identity as a river in the *Atharvaveda*. Because, in all the references, Sāyaṇācārya interprets her as identical to Vāk. In one reference, he clearly mentions that the Sarasvatī, mentioned therein is not other than Vāk and hence, she should not be misunderstood as the river goddess. Further, he paraphrases Sarasvatī as the goddess of speech moving with syllables, words and sentences. He calls her the goddess of speech arranging all the words. In this context, interpretation of Sarasvatī to mean *vāṇī <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/vani#hinduism>*, which is supported by the Vedic passage, *yanme chidraṃ <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/chidra#hinduism> manaso …* etc., (Atharvaveda, 19.40.1). Once, Sāyaṇācārya regards her as *mantrātmikā*, i.e. identical to a *mantra <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/mantra#hinduism>*. In the *Atharvaveda*, Sarasvatī is prayed along with Anumati <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/anumati#hinduism> and Bhaga <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/bhaga#hinduism> to make one’s speech pleasant. That Śraddhā <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/shraddha#hinduism> is a particular state of mind is discussed in due context. For the acquisition of that Śraddhā, one’s speech is expected to be blessed by Sarasvatī. Like other deities, she is also called *subhagā <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/subhaga#hinduism>*. She is worshipped with oblations <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/oblation#hinduism>. She bears the three vital airs, viz. *apāna <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/apana#hinduism>*, *vyāna <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/vyana#hinduism>* and *prāṇa <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/prana#hinduism>*. Sarasvatī, along with the deities, viz. Dyāvāpṛthivī, Grāva <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/grava#hinduism>, Soma <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/soma#hinduism> and Agni <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/agni#hinduism> is prayed for protection. She is the cause of nourishment and happiness. The divinities like Dyāvāpṛthivī, Indra <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/indra#hinduism>, Agni and Sarasvatī are spoken of as turned to the sacrificer and hence, the same expects himself to be a successful one.[18] <https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/essay/women-in-the-atharva-veda-samhita/d/doc1146269.html#note-e-201218> She is asked to accept the oblations offered to her and is prayed to grant progeny She is *śivā <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/shiva#hinduism>*, i.e. propitious, *sumṛḍīkā*, i.e. very gracious and *śaṃtamā*, i.e. mostly capable in repelling diseases. She is called *anamīvā*, i.e. free from disease. Sarasvatī is also connected with the manes. She is spoken of as travelling in the same chariot <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/chariot#hinduism> along with the manes. Again, the forefathers call her to the sacrifice. There, she is asked to assign food <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/food#hinduism> to the invokers. In the sacrifice, she is asked to bestow nourishment and abundance of wealth. The presence of Agni in the crematory is urgent and desiring the same, Sarasvatī is called to the sacrifice. She is asked to accept the oblations on behalf of the manes. There, she is urged to give whatever is desirable to the worshipper. She is eulogised as a goddess of lustre along with the deities Agni, Savitṛ <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/savitri#hinduism> and Brahmanaspati <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/brahmanaspati#hinduism>. A husband prays her to unite him with his wife. When one becomes disappointed as his expectations are unfulfilled, Sarasvatī is invoked to make the same as he was earlier, or to fill up the same with ghee <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/ghi#hinduism>. The seer expresses his fervent desire not to be separated from the sight of this Sarasvatī. Thus, Sarasvatī, the river goddess of the *Ṛgveda* becomes identical with Vāk in the *Atharvaveda*, being associated with many other attributes. About the Ṛgvedic Sarasvatī, Keith speaks thus, “In the *Ṛgveda*, in Sarasvatī we need not see anything more than a river goddess somewhat strongly anthropomorphised in certain details who inspires prayers of devotion.” Yāska also refers to the two-fold identity of Sarasvatī. Nevertheless, Sarasvatī, though, has her original identity as the river goddess, yet, is intermingled with many other attributes losing some earlier ones during her journey through ages and thus, becomes identical with Vāk in the *Atharvaveda* and a prominent goddess of learning in later Vedic literature till today. The attempt to tarnish Brahma marrying daughter etc is time immemorial. People who abet to such crimes are only the sinner. Parvati is the half of Siva. Ardhanareeswara. Is Parvati daughter of Siva? So also, Saraswati was born by Brahma dividing HIMSELF into half. She is already half of him; sahadharminee; so, Brahma and Saraswati are part of the same matter. As we are here atomic, so as devas. This is explained: clarification on this from Matsya Purana chapter 4: 4.1-11 “The king said, “O Merciful! I feel awfully grieved to hear that Lord Brahma married Angaja (body born of one’s limbs). Pray, tell me why He (Chaturmukha Brahma) was not regarded as having committed a fearful sin by having done so. Remove my doubts, O, Master of the Universe! by graciously explain to me why the offspring of Brahma were allowed to intermarry in their paternal circle without any regard for close-knit kinship.” The Lord replied: “O king! such doubts only arise in the case of mankind, for men have atomic bodies and beget children in a different way, while the primeval creation is celestial in which Rajoguna (the quality of the nature that invokes the creation at the primitive level) predominates. The Devas (demigods) not have super-sensuous bodies and they beget progeny in quite different ways. The celestial forms come into being in other ways, and it is very difficult for men having sensuous bodies to understand this great secret. Only supernatural intellect causes celestial creation; therefore those alone can understand its great sect who themselves possessed with such an intellect… O, King! the question of any prescribed order on prohibition does not arise in the deeds of the Devas. Only Their desire is taken into considered in whatever they do. Other beings reap the fruits of their karma (doings) which the Devas do not. No doubts should therefore be raised regarding the doings of the Devas, nor should beings having sensuous bodies think of doing the same deed. Besides this, as Lord, Brahma is the governor of the Vedas, so is the goddess Gayatri of the Brahmans (the sacred text, i.e., the Vedas). She is the better-half of the Lord, and this is why she appeared from his body…He committed no sin by marrying Her. The name Viṣṇu means one who pervades the universe (*vyāpana*).[1] <https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/essay/matsya-purana-critical-study/d/doc628444.html#note-e-171749> According to the *Matsyapurāṇa <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/matsyapurana#purana>*, the word *viṣṇu* is derived from *vi* with √*stambh <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/stambh#hinduism>*, which means to check, to support. Thus the etymological meaning of Viṣṇu is determined as one who is the support of the whole universe.[2] <https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/essay/matsya-purana-critical-study/d/doc628444.html#note-e-171757> Again the term *viṣṇu* is also derived from √*viṣ* which means to pervade or from √*viś* which means to enter. The *Matsyapurāṇa* also derives it from √*viś* (to enter) and maintains that Viṣṇu pervades the whole world by entering everything.[3] <https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/essay/matsya-purana-critical-study/d/doc628444.html#note-e-171750> In the *Viṣṇupurāṇa <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/vishnupurana#purana>* also the word *viṣṇu* is derived from the root *viś*.[4] <https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/essay/matsya-purana-critical-study/d/doc628444.html#note-e-171758> Thus, it is clear that Viṣṇu is one who regulates this world by pervading it. In another place of the *Matsyapurāṇa*, it is said that the Lord is called Viṣṇu because of his power and all-pervasivenes. visṭabdhaṃ yat tvayā sarvaṃ <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/sharva#purana> jagat <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/jagat#purana>-sthāvara <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/sthavara#hinduism>-jaṅgamam// jagadviṣṭambhanāccaiva viṣṇureveti kīrtyase/ viṣṭabhya tisthase nityam trailokyaṃ sacarācaram // –*Matsyapurāṇa*, 248.39-40 vyāptaṃ <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/vyapta#hinduism> tvayaiva viśatā trailokyaṃ <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/trailokya#purana> sacarācaram// tasmad' viṣṇuriti proktaḥ svayameva svayambhuvā <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/svayambhuva#purana>/(Matsya puranam chap4) So Vishnu is in Lakshmi also; so is Lakshmi daughter of Vishnu? In some of the passages it is observed that the mythological account is mixed up with the philosophical one. Thus, in short, there are mythological as well as philosophical accounts of creation in the *Matsyapurāṇa*. And corrupt mind will always see with blind spots. KR IRS 24224 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Q5 What is the most humane gesture you have ever encountered? KR Kadavul irukkaru kumaru. Yesterday I saw a hit Tamil film recent from RJ Balaji; SINGAPORE SALOON. It advocated the same. The principle of life is dependant on so many factors; but none of them are primary; Primary is what you have in you. If you have a stuff, you wont curse any one; and aways finding fault means you lack the tools. So such things are happening always at the right time, right place but that RIGHT when happens, all will be a bliss; or else all will be a MESS. TIME IS THE POWERFUL FACTOR. Time brings out what is in you. K RAJARAM IRS 24224 On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 at 07:58, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty < [email protected]> wrote: > CULTURAL QA 02-2024-24 > > All the below QA are from Quora DIGEST to me on 24-02-2024. > > Selected quora answers generally interesting are included .Still they need > not be 100% correct answers. I am only a compiler. > > Compiled and posted by R. Gopala Krishnan, 80, on 24-02-2024. > > Q1 What is something someone who has never been poor wouldn’t > understand? > > A1 Vijaya Lakshmi, Retired Finance manager at Coal India Limited (A > Maharatna Company)4y > > The power of barter system: Yes, people who never have been poor would not > understand this. > > Few days back I have read a story in a Telugu magazine. It was really > impressive. > > The story goes like this…. > > Ananya and Hitesh a newly married couple, earn together a six figure > salary per month. They have a domestic help Latha. > > Ananya very graciously gives not so old good clothes of hers, like sarees, > chudidars etc to Latha frequently. Hitesh also gives away some of his > dresses to Latha’s husband. > > But Ananya never sees Latha wearing those clothes. > > On asking why she doesn’t wear those clothes Latha just says “Why such > costly clothes for this work madam” > > One day Ananya finds out that Latha is actually selling those clothes in a > second hand (used) cloth market. > > She becomes angry and expresses her displeasure about selling those > clothes. “I wish I have never given you those good clothes. You people > don’t understand the value of such things” Ananya says. > > “Madam please understand me. We both love your clothes. In fact when you > give those clothes I drape the saree , enjoy my reflection in the mirror > for few minutes, remove it, fold it carefully and keep it in a bag. Madam > you know what! If I sell one saree of yours, I will get four used cheap > sarees which I can wear daily for few months. With one dress of yours, we > can buy two sets of old dresses for all our three kids. With sir’s one > dress we can buy old bed sheets for whole of our family to be used in the > winter” > > Hitesh listens the conversation between the two silently. > > That night Hitesh tells Ananya his childhood experiences: > > Do you know Annu, we were very poor when I was a kid. We had just enough > money to have meals three times a day. > > We considered that we were lucky to have three meals a day. But there were > many more aspirations for me. > > In those days boys would play one game called ‘Bachchalata’. It is a game > played with covers of cigarette packets. Each cover had some value. The > rare covers had more value where as cheap cigarette pack covers like > Charminar had very less value. > > If Charminar pack cover’s value is one rupee then the rare foreign brand > cigarette cover would be 1000 rupees. > > Like currency we could exchange those packs. > > Daily in the evening after school I would go to my father’s boss’es house. > I would help him with tidying his room, arranging books etc. > > In return, he would give me two foreign brand (empty) cigarette packs. > > From there I would go to play ground where boys would play this > ‘Bachchalata’ > > For two of those foreign packs I would get 2000 cheap empty cigarette > packs. In the night after finishing homework and helping father with > setting beds, I would cut those 2000 packs into thin strips. > > On Sunday morning my brother and I would wake up early and make toys with > those strips. We would make cats, dogs, bicycles, cars and many more things > with those strips. > > Then I would take those toys in a big basket to weekly market and sell > them there. With the money I get I would buy pencils, note books, text > books etc. > > So there was not much burden on our parents for our studies. > > When I heard the story of Latha, I could understand her. I really felt > happy because she could exchange them for more useful things. > > Hearing the childhood story of her husband, Ananya smiles with tears in > her eyes. > > So please never blame your domestic help if she never wears your good > clothes. Those good clothes might have been converted to more useful things > for her. > > Q2 What is the story of Saraswathi Mata? > > A2 Manjunath Dolagar,19h > > Here is a story about Saraswati Mata: > > Long ago, during the time of creation, the universe was in a state of > chaos. Darkness shrouded the cosmos, and there was no order or harmony. To > bring balance and enlightenment to the universe, the Divine Trinity—Brahma, > Vishnu, and Shiva—decided to create a goddess who would embody knowledge, > wisdom, arts, and culture. Thus, Saraswati Mata, the goddess of learning > and the arts, came into being. > > Legend has it that Saraswati emerged from the cosmic waters riding on a > beautiful white swan. She was adorned with divine ornaments, holding a > veena (a musical instrument) in one hand and scriptures in the other. As > she appeared, the universe was filled with light and melody, dispelling the > darkness that had prevailed. > > Saraswati Mata symbolizes purity and knowledge. She is depicted as serene, > graceful, and adorned in white, signifying purity and illumination. Her > swan represents discernment, as it is believed that a swan has the ability > to separate milk from water, symbolizing the ability to distinguish between > truth and falsehood. > > Saraswati Mata's association with learning and the arts is celebrated with > great reverence in Hindu culture. She is worshipped by students, scholars, > artists, and musicians seeking her blessings for success and enlightenment > in their endeavors. > > One of the popular stories associated with Saraswati Mata revolves around > her relationship with Lord Brahma, the creator. It is said that Lord > Brahma fell in love with Saraswati Mata's divine beauty and wisdom. > However, Saraswati Mata, embodying knowledge and wisdom, chose to maintain > her purity and remain devoted to her purpose of enlightening the world. > > Saraswati Mata's presence is felt in every aspect of life where knowledge, > wisdom, and creativity thrive. Her blessings are sought by those who embark > on the path of learning and seek enlightenment. > > In essence, Saraswati Mata's story inspires seekers to pursue knowledge > with humility, dedication, and purity of heart, recognizing the > transformative power of wisdom and the arts in bringing light and harmony > to the world. > > Q3 What is the funniest military-based joke you know? > > A3 Richard Bristowe,22h > > Back in the 1970’s the Officers’ Mess would occasionally hold a “Ladies > Night” so that officers could bring their wives to a formal dinner at the > Mess. > > For one newly-wed one such do was to be her first attendance and, not > surprisingly, she was anxious to make a good impression with a new > hairdo, new low-cut dress and so on. > > > > On the night, to her dismay, she had a runny nose and, to make matters > worse, her outfit had no obvious place for her to store handkerchiefs. Being > a resourceful lass she solved the problem by stuffing a clean hanky in each > of the low bosom cups of her dress. > > By the time the pudding was due one hanky was pretty sodden and she needed > the second one. To her horror she could not locate it in the bosom cup. > She was in the process of delving her hand deeper into her dress to locate > it when she glanced up and was aghast to see almost the entire company > curiously watching her frantic efforts in the bosom area. Terror-struck she > blurted out “I’m sure I had two when I came out”. > > Q4 What Happened When the Dutch Tried to Steal Thiruchendur Murugan > Idol? > > A4 Vickey Pediya,9h > > One of the Aarupadai Veedu (six most significant shrines dedicated to Lord > Murugan in Tamil Nadu) is the Thiruchendur Murugan Temple, a magnificent > temple that stands majestically on the shores of the Bay of Bengal. > > Known as Jayanthipuram during the puranic time, Thiruchendur Temple is > believed to have been built by Visvakarma, the celestial architect. Like > its ancient name, the temple denotes the site of the battle and the victory > of Lord Murugan over the Asuras, including notorious ones like Anamughan, > Panumughan, Simhamughan, and Soorapadman. > > Even today, every year during Skanda Shasti, the reenactment of > Surasamharam is done at the spot the demon Soorapadman was annihilated. > > Like many ancient temples, Thiruchendur Temple has tales of legends and > miracles. One such story took place in 1648 AD, when an entourage of > seafaring men, later identified as Dutch mercenaries, descended upon > Tiruchendur. > > The Dutch mercenaries looted everything they could lay their hands on, > including the Panchaloha (five-metal alloy) idol of Murugan, which they > foolishly believed was made of gold. > > > > They tried to melt the idol, but failed, and so decided to carry it home > by sea. Having travelled only a few nautical miles from the shore, they > were besieged by a violent storm which rocked the ship violently. > > The frightened sailors believed it was the wrath of the God from the > temple they had looted and heaved the idol into the ocean. > > Vadamalaiyappa Pillaiyyan, a local administrator who was an ardent devotee > of Lord Muruga, later had a dream about the location of the deity. > > In the dream, Lord Murugan appeared and urged him to bring back the deity > from the depths of the ocean. The instructions were that the idol would be > at the spot where a lime would be floating and a kite, the bird of Vishnu, > would be circling overhead. > > Vadamalaiyappa Pillaiyyan, with the help of local fishermen, found the > statue resting on the ocean bed at that very location, and brought it home > to the Thiruchendur Temple. > > > > The miracles of the indestructible Thiruchendur Temple are truly > astonishing. On December 26, 2004, when the coast of Tamil Nadu was hit > by the Indian Ocean Tsunami, it destroyed everything around the temple, > except this ancient site. > > Generally, sea water comes very close to this shore temple. But, while the > tsunami waves were violently hitting shores across Tamil Nadu, the sea > receded away from Thiruchendur temple by 0.75 miles, revealing rocks which > are usually submerged. > > People believe it was divine intervention, as per ancient inscriptions on > a stone tablet proclaiming that Lord Varuna promised Lord Murugan that the > raging ocean would never harm the temple. > > Q5 What is the most humane gesture you have ever encountered? > > Bharathi Kumar, iOS Developer Updated 7y > > This happened in Bangalore. I was jobless and came to Bangalore in search > of a job. I used to take Rs. 100 everyday and go for interviews, as I > could get the daily bus pass for Rs.70. One particular day, I reached the > company for the job interview and realized that I don't have my resume with > me. I went out in search of a xerox shop so that I can print my resume > which was in my mail. I had 20 rupees in my pocket and without asking for > the xerox copy charge, I asked the shopkeeper to print 2 copies of my > resume assuming that it would be 2 or 3 rs per sheet. After collecting my > resume, I asked for the charge. He asked for Rs. 30. I was numb for a > moment. I didn't know how to react. I start searching my bag for coins. I > could find a 5 rupee coin, but I was still Rs. 5 short. > > An elderly person asking for directions at the same shop noticing all this > and that I'm panicking, called me. He gave me a Rs.10 note and said "Things > like these happen. Happened to us also .We too were your age once. Don't > panic, go and attend the interview with a smiling face." > > After a long time, tears started falling down from my eyes. I thanked him. > I cleared the interview and went to the xerox shop and asked about the aged > person. Unfortunately he didn't know him. I smiled and left the place. > > The job pays me 3 lakhs per annum, but those 10 rupees made me attend the > interview. I still thank and remember him. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Thatha_Patty" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/992687848.142260.1708783091241%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/992687848.142260.1708783091241%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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