WHO ARE YOU? Now understood; empty vessel. What is an afterthought? And
what was that before thought? How can a thoughtless empty vessel think in a
brighter way? You shall start thinking when you read and hear; no one can
spoon feed you; that shows that you understand only when spoon fed; even
who are you meaning, must be fed? You somehow think by invoking wrong
persons ,you can rest; but you yourself is a non genuine person. So be it.
Get provoked; write more sluts; and get to your feed time. Have a nice day
and night. Beggar in wealth, is not a beggar in mind, that is Brahmin. You
do not know or try to learn the words used as Manaseeka temple or building
temple by using the funds of the nation and remaining it etc, since you had
wasted all the years in writing petitions only against others, as you are
doing today. Now you desire to be a hih flyer aalso. But Turkey cannot
become a peacock because , turkey is to be spoon fed. Its OK; even that is
an asset to review and use. KR IRS 28524
On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 01:30, gopala krishnan <gopa4...@yahoo.in> wrote:
> Mr Rajaram,
>
> Don't write as *after thoughts*.If a temple is constructed by a king and
> guided by a Brahmin, write so clearly. A begging Brahmin, out of his
> begging never can build a temple.
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Tuesday, 28 May, 2024 at 12:42:28 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Comments with grunting falls like ninepins; there was one who built the
> manseeka temple; and another out of the money of the King; so beggars can
> do if one wishes. Brahmin ruled; but why did no brahmin build any temple?
> That is the question? Had you the calibre to understand, you would not have
> slipped like this K R IRS 27524
>
> On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 00:16, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
> iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Respected friends,
>
> Mr Rajaram Krishnamurthy, in a previous article quoted many references ,
> where a Brahmin has to live by
> *BEGGING. He also continued with the word Begging instead of Bhiksha.*
>
>
> *Now he makes a note-[ KR: is there any temple in India built by a
> brahmin?]*
>
>
> *How a beggar can build a temple? Is not the note by Mr Rajaram
> ridiculing?*
>
> * Gopalakrishnan*
>
> On Monday, 27 May, 2024 at 08:20:22 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Sanatana dharma part 37 K R IRS 27524 26524
>
> DHANA MAHIMA 5. Skandapurana and 6. Varaha Purana on Go-danaas
>
> 5. Skanda Purana (The authenticity of Skanda puranam was proved before
> the supreme court of India in the Ayodhya case)
>
> Narada described to Arjun about „Daanam‟ (charity), its two „hethus‟
> (kinds, heshyam, varieties), six „Adhishthana‟ (Reasons), six „Ankas‟
> (divisions, Parties), two „Parinaamas‟ (structures, end results or fruits),
> three bhedas (classifications) and three „Vina- Sadhanas‟ (scattered,
> littering, negative results). The two „hethus ‟as normally perceived are
> about the size of the charity-small or big- as also of the quality. But
> such „hethus‟ are not as important as the „shraddha‟ or dedication and
> devotion are. Bhagavan Siva would be pleased only by the sincerity and pure
> heart that is attached to the charity rather than any other aspect.
>
> Again, „Dhana- Daanam‟ or the charity of money is more popular than
> „Vastu
> Daanam‟ or charity of material, „Vastram Daanam ‟or charity of clothes
> etc. since charity of money would buy back Vastu or Vastram. Then the six
> „Adhishthana‟ or reasons of Daana are: „Dharma Daana‟ without strings
> attached ie. Daana given to the Virtuous or Dharmatmas; „Artha Daana‟ keeping
> in view some purpose or utility; „Kaama Daanaa‟ like favours for women,
> wine or such other benefits in view; „Lajja Daana ( can one know the
> meaning of Lajja homam in wedding?) is due to compulsions of Public or
> Society; „Harsha Daana‟ is made on receiving good news and out of
> happiness; and „Bhaya daana‟ out of compulsion, fear or avoidance of
> risks. The six „Ankas‟ or donor/receiver parties are as follows: The
> Positive Donors are „Daatas‟ by nature; the „Dharmatmas‟ or the Virtuous;
> those desirous of donating willingly and happily; the „Vyasana rahit‟ or
> devoid of bad habits; „Pavitra‟ or Symbols of Purity and „Anindaneeya‟ or
> the blemishless. The Negative Donors are ill mannered, indolent, evil
> minded, persons of bad habits, persons who swear to support the Evil and
> persons who are sleepy!
>
> Among the Good Receivers of Charity are those of good „Kula‟ or
> caste, who has „Vidya‟ or good Education, good „Aachaaram‟ or family
> bearing / tradition, earners of rightful way of life or of Satvik Life, of
> kind heart, „Jitendriya‟ or of Controlled Emotions and finally of excellent
> parenthood. The second category of receivers of donations is of pleasant
> visage, of sincerity and thankfulness but not of demanding nature,
> cantankerous
> or mean. The donors of charity must have the perspective of what kind of
> material is required or useful to the receiver or otherwise the purpose of
> charity would be defeated.
>
> The two „Parinaamas end results/fruits are either gain of „Punya‟ for
> the „Paralokam‟ or after death or for use in „Ihalokam‟ or the current life
> to the receiver. Here we have wonderful, Tirukkurals:
>
> 1 Immailkkum enai marumaikkum THATHAM KARUMAME kattalaik kal. The Karma
> only determines the life here as well as there. Karma used as our action
> and the rewards.
>
> 2 Arullilarkku avvulagamilai angu Porulillarkku ivvulagamaillai. Without
> Easwara kadaksham one cannot enter swargam so too without reasonable money.
> Living on earth is difficult. Hence dhaanam assumes greater importance.
> Earning is a must but not beyond the reasonable expectations crossing the
> varna dharma.
>
> The latter „Dannas‟ or for the use of Ihalok are of four types
> viz. Dhruva, Trika, Kamya and Naimittika. (already seen in yesterday text
> also) Dhruva is for public use like digging wells, construction of Temples, [
> KR: is there any temple in India built by a brahmin?] {KR: There is
> only one temple for Brahma in ushkar but even in Sunka dynasty temple was
> not built I think} gardens, Choultries, schools etc. Trikha is for daily
> utility like „Nithya Daana‟, say Vidya Daan. Kamya Daan is to fulfil one
> ‟s own desires like victory, wealth, might etc. Naimittika Daana is like
> Samkranti Daana, Grahana (Eclipse) Daana, Daana at auspicious occasions
> like weddings, Vrathams etc. or Kriyapeksha Daana like Shraadh, Vratams
> etc.; Gunapeksha Daana like Vidyabhyas and so on.
>
> Three „Bhedas‟or types of Daan are classified; the best types are
> charity of houses, temples, buildings, Bhumi (farms / fields), cows, Wells,
> gold and ornaments and the best of course is to give away one‟s own life
> itself as „Daana‟. The Secondary Variety of charity relates to Anna (Food
> grains), Vastra (Clothing), „Vahana‟ etc. The tertiary kind of Daana is to
> donate footwear, umbrellas, utensils, curd, honey, „Asana‟ or seating,
> deepa or Light, wood, stones etc. Now, there are three kinds of „Daana
> Naashak‟ reasons viz. „Paschattaapa‟ or regret of having given the Daan;
> „Apaatra Daana‟ or charity to the wrong and unserved person or „Ashraddha
> Daana‟is to a person on account of laziness. Paschattapaya Daana indicates
> as to why the 20 Daan is given at all; Ashraddha Daana is Rakshasa Daana
> and Apaatra Daana is as bad as not giving it away. The worst Daana is
> „Paisacha Daaan‟ or the charity duly given is returned under duress or due
> to the bad behaviour of the receiver or the donor. Incidentally, Apaatra
> Daana should be avoided to an undeserving Brahmana who is bereft of
> „Vidya‟, sells his/her conscience if his Bhumi is accepted; if he accepts a
> cow to kill it or sell it; if he accepts gold to encash it, a horse that
> might destroy the receiver ‟s eyes; Vastram to harm his wife; ghee his
> manliness; tila seeds that might harm his children and so on. Narada
> seeks replies to a questionnaire and bestows Brahma‘s Charity to Kalaap
> Village:
>
> Sage Narad told Arjun that in the context of ‗Daana Pradaana‘ or
> bestowing charity of a large piece of land to a well-deserved Brahmana
> Community; he travelled the World over to identify a Place where
> satisfactory replies are received to a Questionnaire of Twelve Queries
> framed by him. The questions were:
>
> 1) who knows ‗Matrikas‘ well; how many ‗Matrikas‘ are there and how many
> ‗Aksharas‘ or Letters?
>
> 2) What are the Twentyfive Materials in the domestic or personal context?
>
> 3) Who knows the art of converting several women into one?
>
> 4) Who is the unique person that knows the ‗Vaakya Rachana‘ or the Writer
> of Sentences connected with Strange Fiction?
>
> 5) Who is the learned Brahmana living in an Ocean with full awareness that
> a ferocious crocodile is always around?
>
> 6) Who is the best Brahmana possessing the knowledge of eight-fold
> Braahmanatva?
>
> 7) Which are the foremost days falling at the beginning of each Yuga? 8)
> Which are the first days of each ‗Manvantara‘?
>
> 9) Which was the first day that Surya Deva rode in his chariot?
>
> 10) Who could explain that human beings are put to tremendous anxiety like
> a black serpent has?
>
> 11) Who is the most intelligent and practical human being in the whole
> world and why?
>
> 12) Who is aware of the two distinct routes available to human beings?
>
> Sage Narada could not get convincing replies to the above
> questionnaire among the several places visited and Experts interviewed as
> the questions were supposed to be tough! Then suddenly it occurred to the
> Sage that he could perhaps try out the Kalap Village that boasted of
> exceptionally renowned Veda Pundits. On reaching there and having posed the
> questions, the Elders of the Village commented that the questions were
> indeed very elementary and could as well be replied by one of an
> unintelligent and dull boy of the village! He asked a boy said to be of an
> inferior intelligence named Suthanu who gave the replies as follows:
>
> In his preface before answering the questions, Suthanu said that
> various Gurus normally tended to teach the Scriptures and Mantras,
> generations after generations, only by memorizing but without necessarily
> providing the meaning, let alone the implications and intricacies of the
> stanzas. Indeed, a Brahmana who merely memorized the Mantras without
> realizing the meaning was a mere two legged animal! {KR: HOW MANY
> ANIMALS ARE THERE TO DAY SO MANY}
>
> For example, ‗AakarA‘ is known as Brahma, ‗Ukar‘ is Vishnu and
> ‗Makar‘ is Siva; the Triguna form of AUM with ‗Anuswarup Artha Matra‘ on
> top of AUM ( in Sanskrit) is Maheswara Himself! How many are aware of the
> significance of Omkara Mantra? Coming back to the first question as to how
> many types of ‗Matrikas‘ are there and of how many ‗Ahshas‘ or Letters are
> in the Matrikas, the reply is that there are twenty letters in a Matrika.
> Besides there are fourteen ‗Swaras‘, thirty three ‗Vyanjanas‘, ‗Anuswaras‘,
> ‗Visarga‘, ‗Jihva muleeya‘ or tongue-ended voice and
> ‗Upadhaneeyas‘.Matrikas are called the essence of Language. The fourteen
> ‗Swaras‘ from ‗A Kar‘ to ‗Auom kar‘ represent ‗Manu Swarupas‘ viz.
> Swayambhu, Swarochish, Auttam, Raivat, Tamas, Chakshu, Vaivasvath (the
> Present Manu), Savarni, Brahma Savarni, Rudra Savarni, Daksha Savarni,
> Dharma Savarni, Roucha and Bhautya.
>
> The current Manu Vaivasvat is Rukara Swarup and his colour is Black.
> From letters ‗Bha‘ to ‗Sha‘ are eight ‗Vasus‘ viz. Dhuva, Ghora, Sowmya,
> Apah, Nala, Nila, Pratyasha and Prabhasa. The Letters from ‗Ka‘ to ‗Ha‘
> represent thirty three Devatas. Actually letters from ‗Ka‘ to ‗Tha‘ represent
> Twelve Adityas viz. Dhata, Mitra, Aryama, Shakra, Varuna, Amshu, Bhaga,
> Vivisvan, Pusha, Savita, Tvashta and Vishnu. From ‗Da‘ to ‗Ba‘are Eleven
> Rudras viz. Kapali, Pingala, Bhima, Virupaksha, Vilohita, Ajaka, Shasana,
> Shasta, Shambhu, Chanda and Bhava. Letters ‗Sa‘ and ‗Ha‘ are represented
> by the two Ashvini Kumars, thus accounting for all the thirty three
> Devatas. The Letters ‗Anuswar‘, ‗Visarg‘, ‗Jihva Muleeya‘ and ‗
> Upadhaneeyas‘ stand for ‗Jarayuja‘, ‗Andaja‘, ‗Swedaja‘ and ‗Udbhija‘.
>
> About the Second question regarding twenty five ‗Vastus‘ or
> materials for domestic/personal utility, the reply is: These are ‗Pancha
> Bhutas‘ viz. Prithivi( Earth), Apas ( Water), Tejas (Radiance), Vayu (Wind)
> and Akash (Sky); Five ‗Karmendriyas‘(Mouth, hands, feet, anus and genital);
> Five Jnanendriyas ( Ears, Eyes, Tongue, Nose and Skin) and the
> corresponding reactions viz. Shabda (Sound), Rupa (Vision), Rasa (Taste),
> Ghrana (Smell) and Sparsha (Feeling) and ‗Pancha Vishayas‘ viz. Man (
> Mind), Buddhi (Thinking), Antaratma (Conscience), Ahankar (Ego), Prakriti
> (Nature / Maya) and Purusha (Almighty). In other words, the Twenty Five
> Tatvas of Domestic / Physical nature as above are blessed by Almighty to
> realize the Self as reflected from Paramatma.
>
> The Third question concerns about the various forms of a woman who
> is essentially a single entity. The reply is about a person‘s ‗Buddhi‘ or
> mental condition which is comparable to that of a woman whose forms and
> moods are several (Frailty thy name is a woman!). It is the single Buddhi
> which takes myriad kinds of feelings, reactions and impulses.
>
> The Fourth question relates to a person who exists in a ‗Samsaram‘
> (World) and describes it as an attraction like the beautiful phrasing of an
> Essay, not realizing that the charm of the write-up is a trap or the
> ‗Samsara Bandhan‘; hence the lure of life is but a powerful bondage!
>
> The Fifth query is about the joy of living in an ocean, being fully
> aware of the dangerous crocodile nearby. Human beings get enticed to swim
> in an ocean, despite the risk of life and it is that ‗Lobha‘ or
> attraction which generates ‗Moha‘ (obsession) or ‗Maya‘, ‗Abhiman‘ or
> deep sense of Belonging, insensitivity to the risk involved, avarice to
> possess more and more, ignorance and sheer stupidity. All these are
> ramifications of ‗Vyamoha‘ (possessive nature) like desire to secure
> other‘s wealth, woman, and comfort, all at once being dishonest, undeserved
> and corrupt. The sense of Lobha leads to ego, deceit, anger and jealousy.
> The lurking crocodile is surely attractive but hazardous. The Sixth inquiry
> concerns the Eight-fold ‗Brahmanatva‘ classified as Matra, Brahmana,
> Srotriya, Anuchan, Bhruna, Rishi Kalpa, Rishi and Muni. A normal Brahmana
> by birth and caste is invariably the one who no doubt has the advantage of
> ‗Upanayana‘ Samskara and Gayatri ‗Upasesha‘called Sacred Thread Ceremony
> but with or without performing Vedic Karmas or duties; this kind of an
> ordinary Brahmana is name sake only. He who follows ‗Vedic Achara‘ or
> performs Veda Practices being soft natured, fond of loneliness, truthful
> and pious is a Brahmana in a better sense than a ‗Matra‘ type. The better
> category of Brahmanas are ‗Srotriyas‘ who are Ritual, Virtuous,
> proficient of atleast one Veda sakha (Branch) along with six vedangas, pure
> hearted and Dharmajnanas. The higher class of Brahmanas called ‗Anuchans‘
> are well read, Guru Type of senior Vidwans who preach and teach and
> practise ideal ‗Brahmanatva‘. The further higher category is called
> Brahmanas with worldly wisdom to be able to interpret Principles to
> practical situations, authorities on Vedas, ‗Samyamis ‘who have restraint
> and poise, Tatva Gyani and Senior Guides on Rituals etc. ‗Rishi Kalpas ‘are
> Ashrama Dwellers, Naishthies, and limited Eaters. The Rishis are Dhyana
> Nishtha Parayanas (Meditation-Centric) and Jitendriyas or victorious of
> various worldly temptations. Munis are beyond the barriers of Brahmanas and
> the known norms and controls applicable to them, since they belong to Super
> Human Beings worthy of worship and possess yogic powers and Siddhhis.
>
> The Seventh query was about the first days of each Yuga. Kartika Sukla
> Navami was the first day of Satya Yuga, Visakha Sukla Tritiya was of Tretha
> Yuga, Marga Krishna Amavasya was of Dwapara Yuga and Bhadra Krishna
> Trayodasi was the opening day of Kali Yuga. Charities and ‗homas‘ performed
> on the Yugadi Days are stated to be hundred days superior compared to
> normal days.
>
> The Eighth question was about the opening days of each of the
> Fourteen Manvantaras. These are Asvayuja Sukla Navami, Kartika Dwadasi,
> Chaitra and Bhadra Tritiya, Phalguna Amavasya, Paushya Ekadasi, Ashadha
> Dasami, Magha Saptami, Shravana Krishna Ashtami, Ashadha Pournami, Kartika
> Pouranami, Phalguna/Chaitra/Jeyshtha Pournamis are all worthy of charities
> and homams.
>
> That Lord Surya mounted his chariot for the first time was on Magha
> Sukla Panchami, known as the ‗Ratha Saptami‘ was the reply to the Ninth
> question and austerities and charities are stated to be highly fruitful
> bestowing Lord Surya‘s blessings to destroy poverty and improve happiness
> of the devotees.
>
> The Tenth question was about the anxiety of life of any human being;
> the reply was that whoever has to beg for food each and every day was
> indeed the most unfortunate one in the world; such a person not only had
> constant worry throughout his/her life but is destined to go to hell after
> death too.
>
> The Eleventh query was about the Super expert in this frightful
> world. The reply given by Suthanu stated that the best Daksha of Dakshas
> was he who realized as to what would happen after death and tried to equip
> him to perform pious acts so as to minimize the impact of current life and
> possibly of the previous lives. If a person devotes at least eight months
> and one day before death or in other words of the last leg of life and
> possibly as many days of life as possible, would be considered as an
> Expert.
>
> Finally, the Twelfth question seeks reply about the two alternative
> routes of attaining Salvation viz. the normal ‗Karma Marg‘/ the Dharmic
> route of enjoying life as also of attaining the high bliss of Moksha after
> death and alternatively adopting the ‗Vihanga Marg‘ ( The Sky route) or
> straight-away adopt the ‗Naishkarma‘ Marg or the ‗Jnana Marg. If one were
> not to opt for either route, the concerned human being is as good as a
> ‗Pakhandi ‘or ignorant fool!
>
> Having received the replies to all the Twelve Questions, Sage Narada
> was thrilled that Lord Brahma (his father) ought to be complemented as the
> latter‘s ‗Srishti‘ (Creation) was indeed amazing, since a boy was able to
> reply the queries. Pursuant to Brahma‘s behest, the process of selection
> was completed and a substantial charity was declared as a Gift to the ‗Kalaap
> Gramvaasis‘ or the Villagers of Kalaap a Huge Area viz. Mahi Sagara
> Sangama Maha Tirtha. This Tirtha was situated from Kalap Gram by about
> hundred yojanas by Akash Marg (The Sky Route) and by the Grace of Kartikeya
> all the residents of Kalaap Gram could be shifted by a long jump. This most
> Sacred Tirtha was such that there were no proverbial thieves viz. Kama
> (desire), Krodha (anger), Lobha (avarice) etc. who could rob the immense
> wealth of Gyan in the Holy Region. Kalaap Gram itself was some hundred
> yojanas on the mountains of Kedarnath Tirtha. As a result of the Great
> Charity of Lord Brahma by Sage Narada, some Thirty Thousand Brahmanas of
> immense quality who were versatile in ‗Adhyayan‘ of Vedas and Scriptures
> and ‗Anushthaan‘ (Ritualistic Meditation) got transferred to Mahi Sagara.
>
> K Rajaram IRS 26524 27524
>
>
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