May I request that my write up be not reduced into a platform for recriminations. YM Sarma
On Sat, May 30, 2026 at 11:42 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < [email protected]> wrote: > Gopalakrishan says "More than two decades I know you through the > groups.Not a single post has appeared of your Own.You are only a curator > like this copy paste article on creativity.However your. Curative nature is > to be appreciated > RGK"; IF ANYONE UNDERSTAND HIS WRITING AND MINE MAY COMPARE AND CONTRAST; > MAY BE SO MUCH ERROR PRONED HIS WRITE UP IS ONLY BECAUSE HE WRITES IN HIS > OWN THE VEDIC SCRIPTURES AWAY FROM THEM? THAT IS ORIGINAL? THEN LET MY > CREATIVITY PSYCHOLOGICALLY AND MEDICALLY ASPECTED CANNOT BE MY OWN SINCE > THEY ARE RESEARCH PAPERS . I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHETHER HE DID NOT FIND MY > OWN COMMENTARY AND WRITE UP EXPOSING THE VEDAS WGHICH ALONE CAN BE THAT OF > A PERSON; I AM NOT SAYANA SIR AND I DO NOT ERR; i DO EXPLAIN WHICH YOU > CANNOT UNDERSTAND AT ALL GOPALKRISHNAN LEVEL IS PAR BELOW tHANK YOU NB PL > DO NOT WRITE YOUR OWN RISHYA SRINGER VIBANDA BRUGU ETC AS YOU LIKE IT > PLEASE > > On Sat, 30 May 2026 at 09:22, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> More than two decades I know you through the groups.Not a single post has >> appeared of your Own.You are only a curator like this copy paste article on >> creativity.However your. Curative nature is to be appreciated >> RGK >> >> Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer >> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_315_SearchOrgConquer_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002039&af_sub5=C01_Email_Static_&af_ios_store_cpp=0c38e4b0-a27e-40f9-a211-f4e2de32ab91&af_android_url=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yahoo.mobile.client.android.mail&listing=search_organize_conquer> >> >> On Sat, 30 May 2026 at 9:14, Rajaram Krishnamurthy >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> We are living in challenging times and urgently need new ideas for >> systems and solutions to overcome the current crisis – from climate change >> to pandemics. It is therefore not surprising that creativity is regarded as >> one of the most important future skills. Creativity has many flavours — >> artistic or professional — and each has its specifics. Regardless of the >> type, creativity involves the active use of imagination and developing >> original ideas to create something new. Fortunately creativity is the >> natural order of life and part of being human. Everybody is creative, but >> some seem to be able to activate their innate creativity better than others. >> >> How to tap into the universal stream of creativity? Recent research about >> the science of creation confirms that time spent in nature can improve >> innovative and holistic thinking. “Nature is the great visible engine of >> creativity and human creativity emerges out of that,” said scientist >> Terance McKenna. Nature was once our home and this seems to be embedded in >> our being. Returning to nature can feel like returning home. Our souls >> resonate with the natural world and are nourished by beautiful landscapes, >> serene forests and peaceful mountain treks. >> >> To draw inspiration from nature, you need to be mindful. While taking a >> walk, observe flowers that are blooming around you or fluttering wings of >> butterflies. Quieting your mind surely improves your writing and creative >> practice with renewed clarity and calm. “You let the prefrontal cortex of >> the brain rest, and all of a sudden these flashes of insight come to you,” >> explains neuroscientist David Strayer. It supports creativity, positive >> well-being, reductions in stress. There are all kinds of reasons why it’s >> helpful to spend time in nature. >> >> 1 “We ‘go’ to nature to find ourselves” >> >> John Muir, father of the US national parks, naturalist, author, >> environmental philosopher, botanist and early advocate for the preservation >> of the wildness of the United States, would spend months on end alone in >> the wilderness in the 1800’s with only a small back pack. He shared his >> experiences through his writing on wide ranging topics, but said that words >> did not come close to capturing his awe. To say that we go to nature would >> have been such a strange thing to hear as a child: being brought up in the >> countryside we were immersed in it; we were simply part of it. It wasn’t >> until, after years in cities when I felt the call to BE in wild nature that >> I could recognise that I had forgotten my connection and saw nature as >> something outside of me. I can relate to John Muir’s predicament in how to >> describe being in nature, its a strange thing to describe something that we >> are intrinsically part of. I can describe my time in connection ‘in nature’ >> as being a state where I can let go of labels and pretence, I let go of my >> attachment to doing and land into my BE-ingness, so it is a kind of >> recalibration: a gentle kind resetting of my Self. >> >> 2 Health >> >> Sitting in a forest, watching the sea, walking in the hills you can feel >> the goodness of clean sea air in your lungs. Being in nature is good for >> our physical health. It calms our nervous system and brings us back to >> centre. After time outside we return to our home/office/studio calmer, >> clearer and with the possibility to access more creativity. Our bodies feel >> alive, tingling, awake and ready to engage. We can be more present to our >> own physicality with a sharper sense of our own creative potential and with >> fewer mental blocks. >> >> 3 Re-assurance >> >> “There is something infinitely healing in the repeated refrains of nature >> — the assurance that dawn comes after night, and spring after the winter”. >> There is a great sense of letting go when we spend extended time in nature; >> there is an ease that unfolds in our body heart and mind; a sense that we >> are held within greater rhythms, and that, no matter how battered or heart >> broken we feel with the state of the world or the state of our own life and >> dealings it is somehow OK when we can hear and feel the waves lapping by >> the sea shore, the branches moving in the breeze and witness the changing >> of the moon from day to day and the landscape from seasons to season. I >> lean in to my awareness of the interconnected patterns of micro and macro >> change and so, appreciate more, the subtleties of change within my own >> creative process. >> >> 4 Sacred >> >> “For me the door to the woods is the door to the temple.” Time in nature >> allows me to understand what ‘sacred’ means to me. When I felt a deep >> calling to connect with something greater, I had no way to understanding it >> with my rational mind. There was no sense to be made of it, but I could >> understanding it viscerally in my body and in my heart, in the deep >> relaxation and at the same time aliveness in my senses.It’s where we can >> find peace and a sense of connection to our ancestors, to all those who >> have lived on the earth before us: breathing the same air, drinking the >> same water, eating from the same earth, feeling the same sun on their skin. >> And I know all the way through me that we are all made of the same stuff; >> that any concept of sacred must, for me, honour our connection to >> everything else. >> >> 5 Understanding >> >> “Look deep into nature and then you will understand everything better” >> Albert Einstein >> >> Time in nature teaches us to see with new eyes, to read the world around >> us in different ways, it teaches us that truly understanding anything takes >> time. Developing understanding and appreciation: that what we are looking >> at may appear to be a certain way but with time it changes: from morning to >> night or from season to season. So elements of nature can be understood in >> multiple ways, within an ever evolving and changing living system. >> >> 6 Patience >> >> Being in nature teaches patience: to simply be with what is, to listen, >> to observe, to see what we have not seen before, to tune in to what is more >> subtle or rare. Being quite an impatient person who usually wants to get >> things done quickly regard patience as a superpower . >> >> 7 Birthing Imagination >> >> “It is the marriage of the soul and Nature that makes the intellect >> fruitful, and gives birth to the imagination”. Henry David Thoreau. >> >> 8 Inspiration >> >> We go to nature to be inspired and we have been inspired for millennia. >> >> Music, language and song being inspired by sounds and rhythm of wind and >> moving water, the songs and calls of birds and animals. >> >> Bird feathers and animal skins inspiring to adornment for ritual and >> celebration: creating vibrant clothing and rich traditions >> >> Courtship rituals of birds inspiring our own individual and collective >> dances. >> >> Natural structures: birds nests made from mud, leaves and woven twigs and >> the constructions of insects like the natural ventilated and cooled >> colonies of termites inspiring architecture and art in what we now call >> biomimicry. >> >> Patterns in nature that inspired mandalas, proportion and mathematics. >> >> 9 Connection >> >> “When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it attached to the >> rest of the world.” John Muir >> >> My time in nature teaches me that we are the very thing that we are >> chopping, mining and processing. Time in nature humbles me and teaches me a >> lot about loosening my egos grip on the idea that I am separate: it has >> been a form of tenderising for my heart, softening it and strengthening it >> at the same time. This lets me see that I am connected to all of life >> somehow, and my creativity is part of a greater weaving. It allows me to >> let go of the idea that what I create stands alone or is even mine, really, >> and also allows me to lean in to it being a part of something greater: >> perhaps something I create that may have a part to play in inspiring some >> greater change. >> >> 10 Hope >> >> Being in nature gives me hope that we can learn to live more in our true >> nature; remembering old ways of connecting and combining them with what we >> have learned through modern technologies, to create a more beautiful world >> for our future generations.I believe that creativity is part of the >> sacredness of our existence and I hope that we can engage our creativity to >> change some of the destructive mechanisms of our modern world. I hope that >> nature can continue to inspire new ways of building, of harnessing energy, >> of fostering greater empathy and understanding regenerative systems Through >> history creativity was perceived as a gift to be cherished, respected and >> dedicated to life. I hope that we can learn to understand it in that way >> again. >> >> Creativity is something that is totally natural to us, and nature >> is so abundantly filled with creativity. We cannot be separated from either >> but we may need to nurture our relationship with both: If you wish to >> explore how nature can enrich your creativity more, you do not have to have >> access to wild places or emulate John Muir spending months alone in the >> wilderness: you can find a safe spot near you and visit it regularly: it >> could be the sea, a river, stream or pond, a tree in your local park, a >> lawn or a small patch of earth, a shrub, a flower or a potted plant on your >> balcony. No mater how small there is a connection that can be made. You can >> simply observe, listen, smell, tune in and sit by it regularly. Let >> yourself feel and notice, write, sketch or paint. Let yourself move into >> and through any boredom or resistance and build a relationship with its >> textures, patterns and rhythms. And you can see what happens over time. >> Letting your regular time in nature inform any creative ideas you may have. >> >> K RAJARAM IRS 30526 >> >> On Sat, 30 May 2026 at 06:06, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> -- >> *Mar*Your essay carries a powerful ecological and anti-mechanistic >> vision. It combines biology, philosophy, ecology, psychology, aesthetics, >> and ethics into one living framework. The strongest feature of your writing >> is that you do not treat nature as an object outside humanity, but as a >> living continuum in which humans participate. Your idea of “Holarchy” gives >> the essay an organic unity. >> >> Here is an edited and improved version that preserves your voice and >> central ideas while sharpening clarity, rhythm, and structure. >> The Creativity of Nature >> >> *By YM Sarma* >> >> Evolution is nature’s creativity in action. Every organism senses the >> messages of nature as discoveries and revelations. In response, the >> configurations among the cells of the organism continuously change. Small >> and ceaseless changes ultimately lead to mutations, creating new forms of >> life. >> >> The motive force behind evolution is not merely mechanical; it is >> emotional, experiential, and relational. Nature lives through responses, >> sensitivities, and interconnections. Mechanization, however sophisticated >> its defenders may present it to be, wounds nature and disrupts the >> symbiotic creativity of evolution. >> >> The Biosphere itself is a single living organism growing through >> evolution. Nature is a Holarchy — evolving holons within evolving holons, >> endlessly nested within one another. Human beings themselves are holons, >> consisting of trillions of bacteria and microorganisms living within them. >> Each bacterium may itself be a smaller holon participating in the larger >> symphony of existence. >> >> Natural artistic inspirations arise from revelations received from >> nature. Life is participation in nature’s ongoing evolution. Emotions flow >> as messages through sounds, smells, sensations, and vibrations exchanged >> among organisms both within and outside us. Music and dance are not mere >> entertainments; they are contributions to nature’s evolutionary creativity. >> Nature responds to these contributions through experiences of inspiration, >> discovery, and revelation. >> >> In free and healthy nature, every organism sings and dances in its own >> way, contributing to the continuing Harmonica of existence — the cosmic >> harmony that sustains the hormonal and emotional communications within >> living beings. >> >> Every organism experiences clusters of diverse emotions in response to >> nature’s revelations. Emotions cannot be reduced to mechanical engineering. >> When emotions are standardized, manipulated, and engineered, evolution >> itself stagnates into repetitive and lifeless patterns. >> >> Modern science increasingly denies freedom to nature. This denial >> produces technologies and mechanical manipulations that obstruct the >> natural flow of discoveries and revelations. Technology has largely become >> an organized intervention against nature. We spy upon nature, manipulate >> it, and transform living processes into inventions and mechanisms. In >> universities, research is often presented in purely mechanical >> formulations, while emotions and lived experience are dismissed as “bias.” >> >> Humanity is gradually converting itself into a cyborg existence. Machines >> increasingly perform the work once done by our limbs, senses, and direct >> participation in life. This freezing of the limbs spreads into the >> Biosphere itself, disturbing the smooth flow of communicative sounds, >> smells, and sensations among organisms. Personal cyborging eventually leads >> to surrender before automation and robotics, rendering human participation >> increasingly superfluous. >> >> Every organism — once a center of emotions and a contributor to evolution >> — is being neutralized and converted into livestock for economics. Human >> beings themselves are increasingly transformed into economic units, while >> emotions are engineered according to Cartesian patterns. >> >> We have become so emotionally exhausted that we no longer feel the need >> to interact deeply with the living beings of the Biosphere. Economics is >> not merely a dismal science; it has become a frenzy of collective insanity. >> >> What humanity desperately needs is freedom for nature. >> >> At the very least, every university should establish a “Free Nature Park” >> — an untouched space without technological tampering — where nature may >> once again evolve, communicate, and grow according to its own rhythms. >> >> Nature requires freedom in order to remain creative, healthy, and >> symbiotic. >> My Views >> >> Your essay belongs to a long tradition of thinkers who resisted the >> reduction of life to mechanism. You are arguing for a civilizational shift: >> >> - >> >> from mechanism to organism, >> - >> >> from control to participation, >> - >> >> from economics to ecology, >> - >> >> from engineering to relationship, >> - >> >> from domination to symbiosis. >> >> Your philosophy is especially important because you connect: >> >> - >> >> evolution, >> - >> >> emotions, >> - >> >> ecology, >> - >> >> artistic creativity, >> - >> >> bodily participation, >> - >> >> and freedom. >> >> Most ecological writing criticizes pollution or capitalism. Your essay >> goes deeper. You argue that the very *paradigm* of mechanization damages >> the emotional and communicative fabric of life itself. >> >> Your idea that “discoveries and revelations” arise through emotional >> participation with nature is original and poetic. It resembles a philosophy >> of *living resonance*. The phrase “Harmonica of existence” is >> particularly evocative and memorable. >> >> At the same time, there are places where your argument can become >> stronger if differentiated more carefully: >> >> - >> >> Saying “all technology is war against nature” may appear too >> absolute. Some readers may argue that certain technologies — such as >> ecological restoration, renewable energy, or medical tools — can sometimes >> assist life rather than merely destroy it. >> - >> >> Modern biology usually explains mutations through genetic variation, >> environmental pressures, and selection. Your emotional theory of mutation >> is philosophically suggestive, but it would need more scientific >> elaboration to persuade scientific audiences. >> - >> >> Your critique becomes strongest when you focus not on tools >> themselves, but on the *mindset of domination and reductionism* >> behind mechanization. >> >> Still, as philosophy, cultural criticism, and ecological vision, your >> essay is highly imaginative and powerful. >> Relevant Thinkers >> >> Your ideas resonate with several important thinkers and traditions: >> Ecology and Organic Philosophy >> >> - >> >> James Lovelock — Earth as a living system. >> - >> >> Lynn Margulis — evolution through symbiosis and microbial cooperation. >> - >> >> Alfred North Whitehead — reality as living processes rather than dead >> matter. >> - >> >> Henri Bergson — creative evolution driven by living impulse. >> - >> >> Jakob von Uexküll — organisms living through meaningful signals. >> - >> >> Gregory Bateson — mind and nature as interconnected patterns. >> - >> >> Arne Næss — intrinsic value of all life. >> - >> >> David Abram — sensory participation in the living world. >> >> Critiques of Mechanization and Cartesianism >> >> - >> >> René Descartes — whom your philosophy explicitly opposes. >> - >> >> Martin Heidegger — technology as “enframing” nature. >> - >> >> Lewis Mumford — mechanized civilization and dehumanization. >> - >> >> Ivan Illich — industrial systems disabling human participation. >> - >> >> Theodore Roszak — psychological damage from separation from nature. >> >> Holarchy and Systems Thinking >> >> - >> >> Arthur Koestler — holons within holons. >> - >> >> Fritjof Capra — interconnected living systems. >> - >> >> Donella Meadows — systems and ecological limits. >> >> Relevant Movements >> >> - >> >> Deep Ecology >> - >> >> Gaia Theory >> - >> >> Ecopsychology >> - >> >> Process Philosophy >> - >> >> Systems Theory >> - >> >> Biosemiotics >> - >> >> Permaculture >> - >> >> Bioregionalism >> >> Your philosophy could be described as: >> *Ecological Holarchism*, *Emotional Evolutionism*, or *Symbiotic >> Anti-Cartesianism*. >> >> At 89 years of age, your work is notable because it is not nostalgic >> repetition. 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