Dear friends, I fully agree VIBANDA was not the son of sage Kashyapa. I recollect one humor read long back. A railway minister was inspecting newly laid railway line. He found a railway line on the side of the newly laid which was finished with two small rails upwards with a circular red metal sheet. When asked why it is so, staff replied-it is shunting line. He said- Why shunt it- Extend it and workable!!! Mr. Rajaram has made a posting about Kashyapa as response and as a curator - copy paste. If sage Vibhandaka's father was not sage Kashyapa then who was his father? He writes many Kashyapas were there. To satisfy members not to be mislead by Mr. Rajaram posting( If read by any) I have made a 2nd search in Google and result is copied below:- Q Whether sage Kashyapa, son of Marichi was the father of sage Vibhandaka? confirm.Yes, standard Hindu texts explicitly confirm that Sage Kashyapa, the son of Marichi, was the direct biological father of Sage Vibhandaka. Both of India’s major primary Sanskrit epics explicitly identify Vibhandaka as Kashyapa's direct son:Valmiki Ramayana (Bala Kanda): In Sarga 9, it is explicitly stated: "Kāśyapasya vibhaṇḍaka iti śrutaḥ putra asti" which translates directly to: "Kasyapa has a famous son named Vibhandaka." Vyasa Mahabharata (Vana Parva): During the description of the Tirthayatra Parva, the text clearly refers to Vibhandaka as "that son of Kashyapa" (Kāśyapaḥ) who went to the big lake for intense penance. Chronology and Title Alignment - Marichi is the mind-born son (Manasaputra) of Lord Brahma. - Kashyapa is the direct biological son of Marichi. Because he is the progenitor of the world, he is given the cosmic title of Prajapati. - Vibhandaka is the direct biological son of Kashyapa Prajapati. Therefore, according to the standard scriptural text of the Ramayana and the Mahabharata, Vibhandaka is the grandson of Marichi and the direct son of the Prajapati Sage KashyapaR. Gopalakrishnan ( Former ITS)
On Sunday, 31 May 2026 at 05:06:48 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: RISHYASRINGA 4 KR 31526 VIBANDA IS NOT THE SON OF KASHYAPA THE MIND BORN SON OF BRAHMA;THE REPETITIVE ERROR, RATHER GREAT BLUNDER, IS OFT REPEATED, ONLY BECAUSE OF LETHARGICWAY OF WRITING, WITHOUT, APPLYING THE MIND TOWARDS SOURCES AND FACTS BUTGRAZING THE PASTEURS FREELY. ALREADY A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE I WROTE ABOUT THISYET AGAIN DEVIL CREPT IN SO BELOW FORMAT: K RAJARAM IRS 31526 In Hinduscriptures, Sage Kashyapa is the grandson of Lord Brahma (son of the mind-bornson Marichi) and a supreme Prajapati. He had multiple wives—most prominentlythe daughters of Daksha—from whom all living creatures, including Devas,Asuras, Nagas, birds, and animals, were born. Across texts like the Mahabharata, VishnuPurana, and Ramayana, up to 21 wives are attributed to him. Thenames of his wives and their associated children are organized below: The 13Primary Wives (Daughters of Daksha) - Aditi: Mother of the Devas (Adityas). Her 12 primary sons are: Vishnu (Vamana avatar), Indra (Sakra), Aryaman, Dhata, Tvashta, Pushan, Vivasvan, Savita, Mitra, Varuna, Amsa, and Bhaga. - Diti: Mother of the Daityas (Asuras). Notable children include Hiranyakashipu, Hiranyaksha, and their sister Simhika. - Danu: Mother of the Danavas (100 sons). Key children include Vipracitti, Maya (the demon architect), and Svarbhanu. - Kadru: Mother of the Nagas (serpents). Notable children include Shesha (Ananta), Vasuki, Takshaka, Karkotaka, and the goddess Manasa. - Vinata: Mother of birds. Her sons are Garuda (the vehicle of Lord Vishnu) and Aruna (the charioteer of the Sun god). - Surasa: Mother of various fierce Nagas, reptiles, and serpents. - Surabhi: Mother of cattle, cows, buffaloes, and two-hoofed animals. - Ira (or Ila): Mother of trees, plants, flowers, and herbs. - Muni: Mother of the Apsaras (celestial dancers/nymphs). - Arishta: Mother of the Gandharvas (celestial musicians). - Krodhavasha: Mother of wrathful beings, venomous creatures (snakes, scorpions), and 14,000 asuras. - Tamra: Mother of birds of prey (eagles, vultures, and owls). - Visva: Mother of the celestial group of beings known as the Visvadevas. Additional Puranic and Epic Consorts Depending on the text (e.g., Mahabharata vs. VishnuPurana), Kashyapa's lineage also includes these wives and their respectiveoffspring: Simhika: Listed as adaughter of Daksha in some sources (sister to Diti/Aditi) and a distinct wifein the Mahabharata. Mother of Rahu. - Kala: Mother of various asura clans and destroyers. - Puloma & Kalaka (Kalka): Daughters of the Asura Vaisvana, married to Kashyapa on Brahma's orders. They are the mothers of the 60,000 Nivatakavachas (invincible demons). - Pradha: Gave birth to the Apsaras and various wild beasts. - Khasa: Mother of the Yakshas and the demigods. - Kapila: Ancestral mother to a specific class of lower creations and four-legged animals. - Danayus: Mother of major Danavas and fighters in the cosmic wars. - Nata: Mother of specific lineages of celestial dancers. Sources for detailed breakdowns of these genealogies can be further explored in the Vishnu Purana and the Mahabharata encyclopedias. Rigveda In the Rigveda (I.32.9), she is identified as the mother of Vritra, theasura slain by Indra Padma Purana In the Padma Purana, thechildren of Danu are described. >From Kaśyapa, Danu obtained a hundred sons proud of boons. Among >themVipracitti, of great power, was the chief. (Others were) >Dviraṣṭamūrdhā,Śakuni, Śaṅkuśirodhara, Ayomukha, Śambara, Kapila, Vāmana, >Marīci, Māgadha, andHari. Gajaśiras, Nidrādhara, Ketu, Ketuvīrya Taśakratu, >Indramitragraha,Vrajanābha, Ekavastra, Mahābāhu, Vajrākṣa, Tāraka, Asiloman, >Puloman, Vikurvāṇa,Mahāpura, Svarbhānu, and Vṛṣaparvan—these and others were >also Danu's sons.Suprabhā was Svarbhānu's daughter, and Śacī was the daughter >of Puloman. — Padma Purana, Book 1, Chapter 6 Brahmanda Purana In the Brahmanda Purana, itis stated that while Aditi is habitually righteous, and Diti was habituallystrong, Danu habitually practices maya. Kashyapa is mentioned innumerous Hindu texts such as the Puranas and the Hindu Epics. The storiesrelated to Kashyapa in different texts are widely inconsistent, and many areconsidered allegorical. For example, in the Ramayana, he is married to theeight daughters of Daksha, while in the Mahabharata and Vishnu Purana he isdescribed as married to thirteen daughters. Some of the names of the thirteendaughters Kashyapa married in the Hindu text Vishnu Purana are different fromthe list found in Mahabharata. Some texts describe Kashyapa as the son ofMarichi, ancestor of solar dynasty, a contemporary with Uttamapada the secondking of Brahmavarta and who married daughters of Daksha Prajapati the son ofBrahma, others mention about him marrying daughters of Daksha Prajapati thelast king of Brahmavarta, in maledescent from Uttamapada. It may be supposed that there have existed severalpersons named Kashyapa all of whom are usually confounded. In some Puranas, Kashyapa is said to have drained the Kashmir valley tomake it inhabitable. Some interpret this legend to parallel the legend ofBuddhist Manjushri draining Nepal and Tibet, wherein the "draining"is an allegory for teaching ideas and doctrines, removing stagnant waters ofignorance and extending learning and civilization into the valley. The Sindhcity Multan (now in Pakistan), also called Mulasthana, has been interpretedalternatively as Kashyapapura in some stories after Kashyap. Yet anotherinterpretation has been to associate Kashyapa as River Indus in the Sindhregion. However, these interpretations and the links of Multan as Kashyapapurato Kashmir have been questioned. According to the ancient legends, Kashyapa reclaimed that land from avast lake, his school was based there, and the land was named after him. Wives and children The Puranas and the Epics of Indian tradition mention Kashyapa and hisgenealogy numerous times In the Vishnu Purana, Kashyap marries thirteendaughters of Daksha: Aditi, Diti, Kadru, Danu, Arishta, Surasa, Surabhi,Vinata, Tamra, Krodhavasha, Ira, Vishva and Muni, while in the Mahabharata, thenames of these 13 wives are Aditi, Diti, Kala, Danayus, Danu, Simhika, Krodha,Pritha, Visva, Vinata, Kapila, Muni and Kadru. There are variousinterpretations. Scholar Vettam Mani, after analysing the epics and Puranas,concluded that Kashyapa may have married 21 women (13 of which were Daksha'sdaughters) — Aditi, Diti, Danu, Arishta, Surasha, Khasha, Surabhi, Vinata,Tamra, Krodhavasha, Ira, Kadru, Muni, Puloma, Kalaka, Nata, Danayus, Simhika,Pradha, Visva and Kapila. Kashyapa, in the VishnuPurana and Vayu Purana, is credited with fathering the Devas, Danavas, Yakshas,Daityas and all living creatures with various daughters of Daksha. He marriedAditi, with whom he fathered the Adityas, and in two inconsistent versionsVamana, an avatar of Vishnu, is the child of Aditi and Kashyapa. In thesereligious texts, Kashyapa is the brother-in-law of Dharma and Adharma, both ofwhom are also described as married to other daughters of Daksha Kashyapa incarnated as Vasudeva Kashyapa also incarnated as Vasudeva, the father of Krishna due to acurse that Brahma unleashed upon him. Once, the sage performed a yajna (aVedic ritual) in his hermitage in order to offer oblations to the Devas for thewelfare of the beings in the world. To perform the ritual, Kashyapa requiredofferings such as milk, ghee etc., for which he sought the help of Varuna. WhenVaruna manifested before him, Kashyapa requested him for a boon of limitlessofferings to perform the yajna successfully. Varuna offered him a holy cowwhich would provide him with limitless offerings. He then told the sage thatthe holy cow would be taken back once the yajna was over. The yajna went on forseveral days, and with the presence of the holy cow, the sage never faced anyobstacles. Realizing the miraculouspower of the cow, he was overcome with greed and desired to own the cowforever. He did not return the cow to Varuna even after the yajna was over.Varuna appeared in front of Kashyapa and told him that the cow was given to himas a boon, only for the yajna, and now that the yajna was over, it had to bereturned as it belonged to the heaven. Kashyapa refused to part with the cowand told Varuna that whatever is offered to a Brahmana should never be soughtback, and whoever does that would turn out to be a sinner. Hence, Varuna sought the helpof Brahma who appeared before the sage and told him to get rid of his greedwhich is capable of destroying all his virtues. Nevertheless, Kashyapa remainedfirm in his resolve, which enraged Brahma who cursed him, saying that he wouldbe born on earth again as a cowherd. Kashyapa repented for his mistake andpleaded Brahma to forgive him. Brahma also realized that he had cursed him in ahaste, and told him that he would still be born as a cowherd in the Yadavaclan, but Vishnu would be born as his son. This was how Kashyapa was born asVasudeva and became the father of Krishna. Attributions Kashyapa is revered in the Hindu tradition, and numerous legends andtexts composed in the medieval era are reverentially attributed to him invarious Hindu traditions. Some treatisesnamed after him or attributed to him include: Kashyapasamhita, also called Vriddajivakiya Tantra or Jivakiya Tantra,is a classical reference book on Ayurvedic pediatrics, gynecology andobstetrics. It was revised by Vatsya. The treatise is written as a tutorialbetween the medical sage Kashyapa and his student named Vriddhajivaka, andmostly related to caring for babies and diseases of children. Kashyapa Jnanakanda, or Kashyapa's book of wisdom, is a 9th-centurytext of the Vaishnavism tradition. Kaśyapa dharmasutra, likely an ancient text, but now believed to belost. The text's existence is inferred from quotes and citations by medievalIndian scholars. Kaśyapasangīta, likely another ancient text, but now believed to belost. A treatise on music, it is quoted by Shaivism and Advaita scholarAbhinavagupta, wherein he cites sage Kasyapa explanation on viniyoga of eachrasa and bhava. Another Hindu music scholar named Hrdanyangama mentionsKashyapa's contributions to the theory of alankara (musical note decorations). Kashyapashilpa, also called Amsumad agama, Kasyapiya or Silpasastra ofKaśyapa, is a Sanskrit treatise on architecture, iconography and the decorativearts, probably completed in the 11th century. Danu was struck by Indra's thunderbolt after hearing him kill her sonVritra. THUS, KASHYAPA WERE SO MANY,BUT MIND BORN ‘SSON KASHYAPA ORIGINAL WHEN REBORN AS VASUDEVA MEANS CANNOT BETHE ORIGINAL. K RAJARAMIRS 31526 On Sun, 31 May 2026 at 11:56, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty <[email protected]> wrote: SAGE VIBHANDAKA ANDSAGE RISHYASRINGA-PART4 Continuedfrom Part 3 Dear friends, This is a posting about Sage Vibhandaka and his son sageRishya sringa. Allinformation is compiled from Google AI mode QA. Sage Vibhandakawas the son of sage Kashyapa,mind born son of Lord Brahma. Sage Rishyasringa was the son of sage Vibhandaka. The posting is for normal memberslike me interested to read suchtopics. This is 4th part of the posting R. Gopalakrishnan (Former ITS) dated 31-05-2026 The Legacy and CurrentHoly Site-Sringeri The sacred event of Vibhandaka merging with Shivalinga directlyshaped the geography and spiritual naming of the region: The Town of Sringeri: The hill where Vibhandaka meditatedand achieved his final end became known as Rishyashringagiri (later shortened to Sringeri, Karnataka). The Active Shrine: The ancient Sri Malahanikareshwara Templestands on top of a hillock in the very center of Sringeri today. Devotees stillvisit the exact same Shivalinga to meditate, as it is widely regarded as apowerful site where the energy of the dissolved sage remains eternally present. The final moments of sage Rishya Sringa and his wife Shanta Similar to Sage Vibhandaka, Sage Rishyasringa and PrincessShanta did not suffer standard biological deaths. In accordance with their highspiritual status, their final days concluded with their souls undergoingabsolute spiritual liberation (Mukti), dissolving directly into the cosmicelements. The historical traditionsrecorded at the Sringeri Sharada Peetham outline their final days and theirremarkable transformation. The Final Penance at Kigga After completing their domestic and royal responsibilities,the couple permanently retired into the deep woods to embrace Vanaprastha (theforest hermit stage of life).They settled in a remote, pristine forest area near the Nandini River (atributary of the Tunga River) in a region known today as Kigga, located roughly 9 kilometresfrom Sringeri, Karnataka. Here, they built an ashram and spent decades in deep,continuous meditation and worship of Lord Shiva The Final Merger into theShiva Linga When their earthly mission concluded and it was time to stepaway from their mortal frames, the couple achieved the ultimate state of Advaita liberation: The Cosmic Transition: While sitting in deep, profoundmeditation, an extraordinarily brilliant streak of pure celestial light emerged from SageRishyasringa's physical body. The Dissolution: Witnesses observed this beam of lightflash through the ashram and merge directly into the stone Shiva Linga thatRishyasringa and his father had devotedly worshipped throughout their lifetimes. The Union of Shanta: Simultaneously, Princess Shanta’s soul smoothlydissolved into the exact same divine stone structure, completely abandoning hermortal shell. The Structural Markerof the Horn Because Rishyasringa completely absorbed his consciousnessinto the deity, theself-manifested stone deity underwent a physical transformation: The Shape: The stoneLinga permanently shifted into a shape resembling a rudraksha bead with adistinctive horn-like projection crowning the top. This unique hornstands as the eternal physical imprint of the deer-horned sage merging with theAbsolute. The Dual Energy: In local temple theology, the left side of this exact samehorn-shaped Linga is spiritually worshipped as Princess Shanta,symbolizing that the couple remains eternally unified in a non-dual statewithin Lord Shiva. The Shrine Today This historical site is preserved today at the ancient SriRishyashringeshwara Temple in Kigga, Karnataka. Due to Rishyasringa's eternalpresence in the stone, it is a localized religious belief thatwhenever the region faces a severe drought, executing a special ritualanointment (Abhishekam) over this horn-shaped Linga will immediately invoketorrential rains and avert famine across the land. (Note: While the Sringeri-Kigga tradition is the most widelyrecognized, a secondary North Indian tradition in the KulluValley of Himachal Pradesh asserts that the couple spent their final days there.This tradition maintains distinct individual temples for Shringa Rishi inChehuni village and Mata Shanta nearby, where they are worshipped as regionalguardian deities). When did the horndisappeared from Rishya sringa’sforhead? According to Hindu scriptures and the historical recordspreserved at the Sringeri Sharada Peetham, the horn never actuallydisappeared from Sage Rishyasringa's physical body during his lifetime. He carried the single deer horn on his forehead through hischildhood, his adulthood, his marriage to Princess Shanta, and his decades offorest meditation. The horn only "disappeared" from the mortal planeat the exact moment of his ultimate death/spiritual liberation (Videhamukti),through a mysticaltransfer of energy: The Final Merger: When Rishyasringa’s earthly duties were complete, he sat indeep meditation at his ashram in Kigga. As he prepared to leave his mortalcoil, witnesses saw a brilliant flash of lightning/celestial light issue forthfrom his body. The Cosmic Imprint: This divine light—containing his entirelife force and soul—shot across the room and merged directly into the stoneShiva Linga he had been devoutly worshipping. The Transfer: As his physical human bodydissolved, the hornphysically manifested onto the stone structure itself. The horndidn't vanish; it simply transferred from the forehead of the man to the crownof the deity. Today, at the ancient Sri Rishyashringeshwara Temple inKigga, Karnataka, you can still see the physical culmination of this event. Theprimary Shiva Linga in the sanctum is uniquely shaped like a rudraksha bead and bears a permanent,prominent horn-like projection on its head, commemorating the exact moment thesage transcended his physical form. Details about PrincessShanta and her adoption Princess Shanta was the legitimate daughter born to KingDasharatha and his eldest queen, Kausalya. She was not born to a maid. She was the firstborn child of the royal couple of Ayodhya, making her the elder sister of Lord Rama. The Story of Her Adoption Although she was born to Kausalya, she did not grow up inAyodhya due to a royal adoption: The Childless Aunt: Queen Kausalya had an elder sister named Vershini (orVarshini), who was married to King Romapada of the neighboring Angakingdom. They were childless and deeply yearned for a child. The Promise: During a visitto Ayodhya, Vershini jokingly asked Kausalyaif she could have their beautiful baby daughter. Taking the request with absolute sincerity, King Dasharatha honouredthe word of the Raghukul lineage and officially gave Shanta to them in adoption. Life in Anga: Shanta grew up as the deeply lovedcrown princess of Anga. She became a brilliant scholar of the Vedas before eventually marrying the deer-hornedSage Rishyasringa. Rishya Sringa washonoured as son in law of king Dasaratha Sage Rishyasringa was profoundly honoured as the son-in-lawof King Dasharatha. While he was technically the son-in-law of King Romapadaof Anga due to Princess Shanta's adoption, King Dasharatha never forgot thatShanta was his biological firstborn. When Rishyasringa wasinvited to Ayodhya to perform the Putrakameshti Yajna, Dasharatha went toextraordinary lengths to welcome and revere him, blending the utmost scripturalrespect for an eminent high priest with the deep affection meant for ason-in-law. The Valmiki Ramayana (BalaKanda) details the grand and emotional manner in which he was received: The Royal Escort andCitywide Festival When Dasharatha travelled to the Anga kingdom to requestRishyasringa’s help, he did not just send for him; he personally escorted thesage and Shanta back. Before they even reached the boundaries of Ayodhya,Dasharatha dispatched swift messengers ahead: He ordered the entire capital city to be lavishly decoratedwith flags, welcoming banners, and musical ensembles. The streets were swept and completely sprinkled with scentedwater to clear any dust for the sage’s arrival. He entered the capitalkeeping Rishyasringa right in front of him in the procession, amidst a grandcrescendo of conch shells and royal drumbeats. Emotional Reception in theInner Chambers (Antahpura) While Dasharatha handled the formal protocols, the mosttelling sign of his status as a son-in-law happened inside the palace walls. The Reunion: Queen Kausalya and the other royal ladies wereoverjoyed to see Princess Shanta returning home with her husband for the veryfirst time since her childhood adoption. The Worship: The queens received the couple withdeep, maternal affection and worshipful reverence. They housed Rishyasringa andShanta directly within the royal quarters with the highest comfort, treatingthem like visiting celestial deities. Ultimate GratitudeAfter the Puthra kameshti Ritual Rishyasringa successfully conducted the sacred fire sacrificethat resulted in the birthof Rama, Lakshmana, Bharata, and Shatrughna. After the rituals concluded and it was time for the guests todepart, Dasharatha bowed to Rishyasringa with intense gratitude. He sent the sage and Shanta back to their forest retreatladen with rich gifts, wealth, and a grand royal guard of honour to ensuretheir absolute comfort. How Rishya Sringa was broughtto Anga kingdom King Romapada brought Sage Rishyasringa to the Anga kingdomusing a highly calculated plan of sensory temptation and architecturaldeception, carried out by royal courtesans and maids. Because Rishyasringa’s father, Vibhandaka, raised him inabsolute isolation, the young sage had never seen another human being besideshis father—meaning he did not even know women existed. Knowing that standard methods or military force would triggerVibhandaka's terrifying curses, King Romapada used the innocence of the youngsage against him. The Valmiki Ramayanadetails exactly how this intricate luring took place: 1. The Floating Hermitage (The Deception)The king’s ministersdesigned a specialized vessel to avoid stepping too far onto the mainland whereVibhandaka’s wrath could catch them.They constructed a massive, luxurious boatand decorated its deck with real soil, trees, creeping vines, and floweringplants. From a distance, the vessel perfectly mimicked a beautiful, floatingforest ashram. This floating hermitage was rowed up the river and anchoredclose to the banks near Vibhandaka’s actual forest home. Maid Vaisali- The First Encounter (The Temptation) The king sent his most skilled courtesans and maids (led by aclever woman frequently named Vaishali in sub-texts) to execute the plan. Theywaited until they knew Sage Vibhandaka had left the ashram to gather roots andfirewood. The women stepped off the boat into the woods, dressed inexquisite robes, singing sweet melodies, and playing games. When Rishyasringa sawthem, he was utterly fascinated. Because of his absolute innocence, he mistook them for a rare,beautiful species of male ascetics/sages from another forest.He invited them back to his ashramand offered them simple forest fruits. The Unfamiliar Delicacies-The courtesans realized they had to workquickly before the father returned. They politely declined his simple food and instead offered him highly exotic sweets, intoxicating drinks, and rich delicaciesthat they had brought from the palace. They embraced him affectionately, put garlands around him,and played with him, overwhelming his senses with perfumes and touches he hadnever experienced. Fearing Vibhandaka'ssudden arrival, the women suddenly retreated back to their floating vessel,pretending they had to go perform their own religious vows. The Lovesick Sage and the Final Lure The departure of these "strange, beautiful sages"threw Rishyasringa into deep emotional distress. For the first timein his life, his mind was restless, and he completely ignored his eveningprayers and meditation rituals. The very next day, as soonas Vibhandaka left the ashram again, Rishyasringa eagerly ran back to theriverbank looking for them. The maids were waiting. They smiled and warmly invited him,saying, "O holy one, please step into our nearby hermitage, where wecan give you even better fruits and hospitality ."Driven by curiosityand longing, the innocent young sage stepped directly onto the cleverlycamouflaged boat. Themoment his feet boarded the deck, the oarsmen immediately rowed the boat outinto the deep currents and travelleddown the river toward the capital of Anga. The plan worked perfectly: the absolute moment Rishyasringa's feet touched the dry,parched soil of the Anga kingdom, the heavens broke open, and torrential rainpoured down, ending the years of famine. Sage Rishyasringa left the ashram completely withoutinforming his father, Vibhandaka. He did not get his father's blessings before leaving. Because Rishyasringa was incredibly innocent and had neverseen another human being besides his father, he did notrealize he was being lured away or tricked. 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