Hmmm... Pavel raises a very good point! What use is LRUD data? I
collect it but make no use of it when sketching and even less when
working in Therion.
In this case - Since all the centerline data is in one file, it was a
very easy test. I added "ignoreall" in the appropriate place in the
"data" line. It works very well. The spurious walls are now gone. The
map looks exactly the way I want.
Since Loch does not work for me, I do not have a way to see what this
does to the .lox files.
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Bill Gee
On 11/26/24 10:18, Pavel Herich wrote:
I agree,
the question is, do You need them? Just to create a xvi file I suppose.
Because you need remove just right-left column, lox could look even
better without these two.
Or you can have two headers in centerline, and just switch them in case
with Search and Replace?
#data normal from to tape compass clino up down right left
data normal from to tape compass clino up down ignoreall
P.
Dňa 2024-11-26 17:02 Bill Gee napísal(a):
Hi Pavel -
It might - but then I have to keep two copies of the centerline data.
Might not be so bad now, but as more is added, I have to make sure
both data sets are in sync.
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Bill Gee
On 11/26/24 09:56, Pavel Herich wrote:
This should help a bit:
data normal from to tape compass clino ignoreall #ignore all lrud
data in centerline
14P 15P 7.91 345 2.5 1.6 0.2 1.5 0.3
15P 16P 5.4 25 -3 0 1.5 1.2 2
...
Pavel
Dňa 2024-11-26 16:46 Bill Gee napísal(a):
Thank you all for your suggestions and hints. I have figured out
how to make this work - Mostly!
Take a look at this map:
https://campercaver.net/MiscFiles/CaveSpringCave-All.pdf
This is very close to what I want. The only problem is more of an
annoyance. It appears that adding the centerline as a survey makes
Therion process the LRUDs to come up with a pseudo-wall. I would
like that to go away. I tried adding "hide-symbol line wall" to the
layout, but that made all of the walls go away.
In the thconfig file I changed the "source" line to the new .th
file, added a symbol-hide line for cross-sections and changed the
name of the output file on the export line. I also changed the
"select" line to reference MainPlan-All.
Here is how I set up the .th file:
========================
map MainPlan-All
MainPlan
MainCenterLine
endmap
# Create the main map to include all submaps
map MainPlan -title "CaveSpringCave (SHN-017) - Plan View" -
projection plan
# X and Y upper level
X-Survey@CaveSpringCave
Y-Survey@CaveSpringCave
# Main passages
MainPassages@CaveSpringCave
# Lower stream passage
A-Entrance@CaveSpringCave
A-Survey@CaveSpringCave
# T-Survey - Small side passage off upper trunk
T-Survey@CaveSpringCave
endmap
survey MainCenterLine
centreline
# Define the units that will be used.
units compass degrees
units clino degrees
units length feet
units depth feet
units tape feet
units altitude feet
units dimensions feet
# A separate file contains all of the survey data. Use multiple
files as needed
input CaveSpringCave-Surveydata.txt
endcentreline
endsurvey
survey CaveSpringCave -title "Cave Spring Cave"
centreline
# Define the units that will be used.
units compass degrees
units clino degrees
units length feet
units depth feet
units tape feet
units altitude feet
units dimensions feet
# A separate file contains all of the survey data. Use multiple
files as needed
input CaveSpringCave-Surveydata.txt
endcentreline
# Lower stream passage A survey
input 20161107/CaveSpringCave-LowerEntrance.th2
input 20221013/CaveSpringCave-A3-A7.th2
input 20221013/CaveSpringCave-A7-A17.th2
[much more omitted ...]
==============================
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Bill Gee
On 11/25/24 09:31, Bill Gee wrote:
Actually, I would like full detail where it exists and centerline
only where it does not. Martin's hints give me an idea how to get
this. It will take a day or two for me to set it up and test.
I also want maps where only the drawn stuff is shown. I think what
I need to do is leave those parts of *.th2 and thconfig alone, and
add new stuff as noted by Martin.
One additional question regarding the "select" statement
location ... I think I need to put it in thconfig just before the
layout and export lines that creates the file, like this:
====================== thconfig ============
select MainPlan
layout basics
...
endlayout
(more layout sections)
export map -proj plan -layout ChosenLayout -o Outputfile
(several more "export map" commands to get Loch, Aven, KML etc files)
select FullMap
layout FullMapLayout
...
endlayout
export map -proj plan -layout FullMapLayout -o AnotherOutputFile
======================
Is this about right?
Another way I might do it is to create entirely new thconfig and
*.th2 files just for this map, then use a "system" call in the main
thconfig to launch another instance of therion with the alternate
thconfig as a command line option.
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Bill Gee
On 11/25/24 08:38, Martin Sluka via Therion wrote:
It means you want only centerline for all the data set and walls
for only part of a cave. Correct?
Define map which will contain only survey data.
Define other map, which will contain only sraps or maps from
scraps for that part of the cave you want.
Define map, which will include both maps defined above.
Select this map in thconfig
Add to layout:
symbol-hide group all
symbol-show line wall
symbol-show group centerline
(or symbol-show line centerline)
It should work
M.
Odesláno z iPhonu
25. 11. 2024 v 14:03, Bill Gee <[email protected]>:
I am looking at this entry in the Wiki:
https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/
tips#showing_centreline_for_parts_of_a_cave_and_passage_walls_for_others
My understanding it that this requires making two sets of
centerline data, then creating a survey for each set. One of the
data sets is for that part of the cave which has walls/scraps and
the other is for the remainder of the cave.
The thconfig file is set up with only one survey/endsurvey
section. I think this also would have to change into two sections.
Is this correct?
The cave I want to do this for has all centerline data in one big
file. It would be a huge pain to separate that into two files.
Even more of a pain would be moving the data as sketching is
completed.
Thanks!
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Bill Gee
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