Hi Jean-Florent, I also had this issue in some caves in Haute Savoie (France). Generally, to avoid this issue, I separate the survey in several sub-surveys corresponding more or less to a small horizontal level, and I draw each subsurvey separately. Then, this is not hard to merge everything together. You may have a look on https://github.com/robertxa/Topographies-Samoens_Folly to get examples on how to separate surveys and merge them. I also use a lot the 3D view with Loch to be sure about the station to be taken in account.
To share the 3D view with other people, I am using the Caveview web-app. The great point is that as soon you already have a model on line, if you share a lox file, you can tell your contacts to just grad-and-drop the new lox file in the Caveview window: it will load the local lox file you sent. Cheers, Xavier > Le 29 janv. 2025 à 10:15, Jean-Florent Raymond <[email protected]> a > écrit : > > Hello, > > Thank you all for your answers ! So there is no easy way. > > Yes indeed the elevation drawing is much easier to read in this case and was > also much easier to draw. But I cannot resign myself not to draw the plan, > which is useful to guide the exploration. (For instance it might reveal that > that one chimney is located just below the base of a pit above, in which case > we probably won't waste time to climb that chimney.) The 3D view is even > better for that but quite hard to print on paper :) and more generally hard > to share with people who are not too familiar with computers. > I will try some of your suggestions. > > Best regards, > Jean-Florent. > > > Le 28/01/2025 à 19:31, Bruce Mutton a écrit : >> Hi Jean-Florent >> As Tarquin said! >> However solutions I have used to good effect... >> If your data is pencil and paper, then printing and sketching on paper >> (while viewing models, plan and elevation on-screen simultaneously) then >> scanning those sketches can be an easier way of untangling. >> Or break the survey into small sections of survey that only minimally >> overlap, and export one at a time for eventual sketching. >> If your data is paperless, then the best option is to anticipate this while >> in the cave - if it is becoming hard to decipher in the cave on your device, >> then it won't be better in XTherion. >> In this case, create a new survey file. >> In both cases, limit the scope of your xvi only to the individual survey. >> Good luck! >> Bruce >> PS: Perhaps a key thing to remember is that if the plan is becoming >> difficult, an elevation drawing will be a better way of conveying to viewers >> an understanding of the cave. >> (An example of a 5 or 6 level shaft spiral that is somewhat OK in plan) >> _______________________________________________ >> Therion mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion > > _______________________________________________ > Therion mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list [email protected] https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
