Success.  In the DriverHeaven forum for Radeon and Win XP, 
there was a posting about Omega, a popular packaging of the ATI 
drivers that seems to have faded away.  In that thread, an 
owner of a Thinkpad T41 complained that he was having a 
particular problem. Thus was indicated that the version of 
Omega under discussion, which corresponded to Catalyst 7.1, 
would support both Mobility Radeon and AGP.  I DL'd Catalyst 
7.1.2, the last of the 7.1 series, and last of the 7 series 
too.  I noted that the 8 series for WinXP was considerably 
smaller in MB, so perhaps that's when they dropped the AGP and 
Mobility Radeon support.

The right-click desktop says that it supports 1920x1080 in an 
external monitor.  We'll see what happens when the monster 
arrives.

The Catalyst Control Center looks great.

Thank you, David Ross!


>To add to the confusion, the latest Catalyst version at the 
>DriverHeaven website, Catalyst 8.12 (the one I DL'd), does not 
>seem to be the latest Catalyst version.  I see mention of the 
>availability of 9.x in posts.
>
>I'm not sure why they have all those versions of Catalyst 
>available, yet don't mention AGP on either the modder page or 
>the Catalyst download page.  
>
>There is also something called an "AGP hotfix" which came out 
>in conjunction with the Catalyst releases.  For example 8.8 and 
>8.9.  These get talked about in the DriverHeaven forums, but I 
>haven't located a description of what they are supposed 
>to do.   
>
>
>>> They told me to use the latest Catalyst. If I need an earlier
>>> Catalyst version, as you suggest, I am unable to determine
>>> which version, despite some time searching their forum, putting
>>> appropriate terms in google, and following up the hits.
>>
>>I will check later tonight to see what we have running on my son's T42. 
>>However, that one is a fairly old one (maybe 6.x) so as to be compatible 
>>with some games of his.
>>
>>David
>>
>>>
>>> I'll try again, adding the term AGP to my searches.
>>>
>>>>If you just try the desktop drivers, without following exactly the
>>>>instructions involving the mod tool, this is what will happen.  The reason
>>>>is that ATI has intentionally (and unnecessarily) excluded Mobility Radeon
>>>>from the list of chipsets Catalyst supports, the process at the website is
>>>>designed to circumvent this crippling.
>>>>
>>>>Another problem that might arise is that since a few years ago, only every
>>>>other release of Catalyst supports AGP graphics, so you need to make sure
>>>>that the one you download includes AGP chipsets (like the X32).
>>>>
>>>>David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--------------------------------------------------
>>>>From: "Jonathan Berry" <[email protected]>
>>>>Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:26 AM
>>>>To: <[email protected]>
>>>>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Widescreen monitor and X32
>>>>
>>>>> Everything seemed to go smoothly, but after I rebooted
>>>>> I got this message:
>>>>>
>>>>> "No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not
>>>>> functioning properly.  Please install the ATI driver
>>>>> appropriate for your ATI hardware [OK]"
>>>>>
>>>>> which also comes up when you right click the desktop and click
>>>>> Catalyst.
>>>>>
>>>>> The right click desktop Settings are now pretty basic.  No
>>>>> external monitor, for example.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the problem relates to my downloading the latest
>>>>> (8.12) Catalyst XP drivers rather than using the method David
>>>>> suggested.
>>>>>
>>>>> The instructions *did* state:
>>>>> 3: Download the newest desktop [sic] drivers from www.ati.com (or get
>>>>> them from Driver Heaven Downloads).
>>>>>
>>>>> I got Catalyst from Driver Heaven, as the ATI (AMD) site did
>>>>> not navigate properly for me in Firefox.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried to look up what version of Catalyst I should be using
>>>>> by searching the DriverHeaven forums, but unfortunately they
>>>>> don't allow a search for multiple keywords such as "Thinkpad
>>>>> X32", while searches for "Thinkpad" and "X32" separately are
>>>>> pointless.  Too bad IBM didn't skip from X31 to X33, omitting
>>>>> the number corresponding to 2 to the power 5.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I could re-install the Lenovo ATI drivers that I
>>>>> DL'd this morning.  That should bring back the capability to
>>>>> have an external monitor, albeit not of the desired resolution.
>>>>>
>>>>> I googled a blog entry in Chinese (which I don't read) which
>>>>> seemed to indicate that a mod of the Catalyst 6.5 drivers
>>>>> (Omega V3.8.252) from 2006 might work.  I'm investigating ....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>You want to install the highest version of the ATI Catalyst drivers that
>>>>>>support the X32 chipset.  The problem is that ATI won't let the Catalyst
>>>>>>drivers install on laptops, but you can make them install using a thing
>>>>>>called "modtool".  Start here: http://www.driverheaven.net/modtool.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>From: "Jonathan Berry" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 4:35 AM
>>>>>>To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>Subject: [Thinkpad] Widescreen monitor and X32
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's a 1900x1080 monitor coming into the household, and I'm
>>>>>>> wondering how I might best make use of it with my X32.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The following thread
>>>>>>> http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=77753
>>>>>>> contains a discussion pertaining to Intel chipsets
>>>>>>> (for the X4* models).  It's a bit difficult to follow, for
>>>>>>> Little Old Me, but it does seem that with some tinkering
>>>>>>> you can get a wide monitor to fully work on an X4*--
>>>>>>> but since the X32 has as its graphics card an
>>>>>>> ATI Mobility Radeon  7000
>>>>>>> maybe it doesn't apply.  The poster writes about looking
>>>>>>> at ig*.inf files which don't exist on my computer, I guess
>>>>>>> because ig means "Intel Graphics".  I have a lot of ati*.inf
>>>>>>> files instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also looked in the Thinkwiki and didn't find much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the desktop, the X32 gives options only for installing
>>>>>>> 4:3 external monitors.  That doesn't change when I install
>>>>>>> the .inf file for the wide monitor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or is my best approach just to tempt the other computer user
>>>>>>> (who has a desktop) with the wide monitor and hope to glom on to her
>>>>>>> 4:3 monitor?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And while I'm here, is there any chance of using a monitor
>>>>>>> sideways as an external monitor?  For example 1080x1920
>>>>>>> (of course I'm dreaming) or 1024x1280 (the 90 degree rotation
>>>>>>> of which, 1280x1024, *is* supported by the X32).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>

-- 
happy
Jonathan Berry and Erika http://members.shaw.ca/berry5868/fun.htm

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