None taken...but as you wrote if the extension has a serious enough
problem when communicating the site then it could cause the problem.

Can you explain why then Thunderbird after storing the popstate list
would TB redownload  messages on the next time after you login via
Hotmail webmail site and mark them as unread? Your explaination is
leading to me think TB is only comparing its list of all messages to
the Hotmail site list would not redownload the messages that it had
already downloaded even though they now mark as unread. Could this be
because get reassigned new id numbers by the hotmail site?

Shouldn't Thunderbird save all it files when it is terminated
properly? example: using either the exit command or close program
check box in the under right. When I write programs that is one of the
first things I do is to have the program check for open files and
close those that left open as the exit section executed. I tried to
close files as they are no longer needed just keep the data safe. I
know if you shutdown Windows or other operating and or simply turn the
computer off then program file may not have been saved.

Eugene

On Oct 17, 10:53 pm, alanrf <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry to report that the suggestions made by KE4AVB have nothing to do
> with the way things really work (sorry KE4AVB - this is absolutely not
> personal but it is technical).
>
> The decision on which messages to download are not made by these
> extensions in any way at all.  The decision on which messages to
> download are made entirely by the main Thunderbird program.
>
> This is how it works.  Every time Thunderbird contacts the mail server
> its first task is to get a list of every email message held on the
> server.  These extensions act as a POP server. So the extension gives
> to Thunderbird a list of every single email message held on the
> server.  If you keep your messages on the server then Thunderbird will
> have saved the list it got last time (it is called the popstate.dat
> file for each POP account).  Thunderbird compares the two lists and
> for every email it thinkls it has not seen before Thunderbird will ask
> for the message to be downloaded.  When all the messages have been
> downloaded and moved to the Inbox on Thunderbird then Thunderbird will
> store the new list (I am leaving out some housekeeping like dealing
> with deleted messages but they are not totally relevant at the
> moment).  The important point to note is that if you terminate
> Thunderbird before it has a chance to complete and store the new list
> then next time round it will not recognize that *some* messages were
> downloaded and start over from the earlier point again.
>
> There is one other more severe condition.  If the extension has a
> significant problem with the server it can return to Thunderbird a
> "null" or empty list.  Thunderbird will store that.  Next time you
> connect to the server successfully and get a good list of the messages
> Thunderbird will think that every message is new and will download the
> whole of the server's mail contents again.
>
> To the original poster - there are, you know, valuable add-ons to
> delete double downloads but you are knowledgeable to beware of the
> issue of the undesirable deletion issue.  If you plan to use the value
> of duplicate deletion then you should temporarily change your option
> in Thunderbird to "leave messages on the server" while you use the
> extension.  I do not know of an add-on that avoids this
> need.
>
> On Oct 17, 4:24 pm, KE4AVB <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It could been a server when down and MS restored the data from a
> > backup and some of your emails may have not been read before that
> > particular back was made. Every once a while I get a few old emails
> > download again. Hotmail accounts sometimes develop errors and are fix
> > without you knowing it as it may be affecting more than one person.
> > Keep receiving your emails and if the dupes are constant then there
> > maybe problem with webmail addon; otherwise, it may have been failure
> > on MS side.
>
> > If I remember correctly there is several add-ons for removing the
> > duplicates. Search Thunderbird Extensions for the one you like to try.
>
> > Eugene
>
> > On Oct 17, 4:31 am, WINUX <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi all
>
> > > All of a sudden today, Thunderbird was retrieving my mails again. So
> > > now I have alot of messages double and I don't want to delete the
> > > doubles as it would probably get my messages deleted from the hotmail
> > > server. For a few weeks it did work correct.
> > > I use the beta 1.2.25b2 older versions where not working.
>
> > > Does anyone has an explanation for this?
>
> > > Thanks in advance
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