On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:05 AM, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm using TW 2.4.1. > > Getting Hypergraph to work seemed unexpectedly simple with one > exception - though maybe I was lucky!. I just imported all the > Hypergrpah tiddlers listed in the Hypergraph instructions from a copy > of the Hypergraph TW that I'd extracted from the zip file in which I'd > downloaded the hypergraph materials. Then I reloaded my TW and it > simply worked - as long as the three folders also extracted from the > zip file were in the same folder as my TW.
The file structure is detailed in the http://project.dahukanna.net/tiddlywiki/twextensions.htm#DownloadHyperGraphtiddler. I wrote the documentation to ensure that all dependencies are clearly identified. If this is not the case please let me know. > > > I didn't see any reference in the documentation to the importance of > having these folders in the same place - though I may simply have been > unobservant - and initially had copied my TW into all sorts of other > folders. see http://project.dahukanna.net/tiddlywiki/twextensions.htm#DownloadHyperGraph > The need to keep the TW with the folders is probably obvious > to technical people but wasn't at all obvious to me. (It only occured > to me when running experiments with ASciencePad which also needs > folders nearby. But Hypergraph actually stores the data for the > displayed maps in these folders whereas ASciencePad only stores > additional software there I think). The reason for this is that Hypergraph is actually a Java application that runs in a browser, all I did was package it into a TiddlyWiki plugin to use it in a TiddlyWiki. > > I also found that copying the three folders alongside my TW didn't > always immeditaely fix the problem even if I reloaded my TW - I don't > understand why. So, if I were doing this again, I would place the > three hypergraph folders alongside my TW first, then import the > hypergraph tiddlers, reload the TW and expect to see the default map > that comes with hypergraph at the top of the TW main page as it does > in the hypergraph demo file. Currently, the information about the Tiddlywiki file is saved to the xml file and then reloaded into the TiddlyWiki by freshing the browser page. I actually have a tiddlywiki file that I use as a global navigator for all my tiddlywikis by importing all the xml files. This gets around huge tiddlywiki performance. > > It took me a while to realise that this was not showing a map of my > own TW and to realise that the Save XML button or command must be used > to create new map data (in XML - hence the reference to XML) which the > map then displays. I initially ignored this because I wasn't > interested in XML but rather ina map of my tiddlers. (The map in XML > is stored in the graphs folder - one of the three folders mentioned > above). The Save XML button is not immediately available in the newly > enhanced TW but can be found in the hypergraph Info Plugin I believe > and presumably can be added to a sidebar menu. > > Just as I didn't realise I needed to save XML to see a map of my own > TW I think other users of my TW wouldn't either. I'm assuming I can > create a sidebar option labelled something like "refresh tiddler map" > that would be more meaningful. (The original labelling makes sense if > you plan to use Hypergraph to draw maps of other things than your > tiddlers. Examples of these are in the Samples tiddler). > > The same Info Plugin also indicates that you can reset the locations > of the three folders above. I'd assumed I would only fiddle with such > complex-looking settings if I wanted to do something especially clever > or unusual with Hypergraph and left these alone without realising > that, by detaching my TW from the folders, I was effectively creating > a neeed to change these config settings if hypergraph were to work. It > was just simpler to put the folders back alongside the TW though for > now. > > I'm encountering some further questions and issues as I trial it but > am posting them in this newsgroup separately. If you want to use > Hypergraph, keep an eye on these as I encoiuintered other glitches, > often caused by conflicts with other tiddlers - one of the joys of > separately sourced plugins I suppose! > > Hoping this helps. > > Kevin > I suggest that I get an area on the site that I can use to capture all the requirements/feedback. I'll announce as soon as I've set it up. > > On Oct 1, 11:34 am, wolfgang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Please share your insights with the community - I did not manage to > > > get Hypergraphs running still. > > > > The last time I did manage to get Hypergraph reflecting the actual > > tags was in a TiddlyWiki 2.1.3- > > > > So I guess you're using this older version of TiddlyWiki, Kevin? > > > > W. > > > > PS.:If I remember right, you could embed a Hypergraph in a tiddler and > > there such examples at Dawn's Hypergraph TiddlyWiki. > > > -- http://dahukanna.net --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
