Okay, I've tried something different to try to get this idea to work:
I was wondering if I could do the same thing with custom fields
instead of FormTiddler data, so I learned how to use custom fields and
"hide when".  Unfortunately I forgot that the custom fields don't
display inside the main tiddler body.  Is there a way to get a custom
field to show up with a <<tiddler TiddlerName>>?

Dave

On May 23, 7:24 am, cmari <cema...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is really neat, especially because it's then possible to make
> changes to a form while it's being viewed in transclusion!
> But as Dave says, the refresh doesn't quite keep up - whenever either
> the original tiddler or the transclusion tiddler is changed, the other
> tiddler has to be closed and reopened in order to display the change.
>
> Am I correct that the "wrapper" is also the reason why, even with this
> tweak installed, my form <data> that is inside <part></part> still
> doesn't display?
> cmari
>
> On May 22, 11:57 pm, Dave Parker <cedar...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I think you're on to something...
>
> > the fix does work for viewing the form tiddler in the pop-up, but it
> > disables the viewing of the form tiddler in the straight "right from
> > the tiddler" way...
>
> > Any ideas? (he said hopefully :-)
>
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
>
> > On May 22, 10:23 pm, Eric Shulman <elsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > The slider isn't really the issue.  The problem is that data in a form
> > > > tiddler does not appear in transclusion (e.g., when using the
> > > > <<tiddler>> macro) - all you can see is the outline of the form, not
> > > > the contents of the form fields.
>
> > > The problem originates with the 'lookup function' that
> > > [[FormTiddlerPlugin]] is using to identify the tiddler in which the
> > > <<formTiddler>> macro and <data>...</data> block are stored (the
> > > "source" tiddler).
>
> > > Here's what that function currently looks like:
> > > ------------------------------------------
> > > config.macros.formTiddler.getContainingTiddlerName = function(element)
> > > {
> > >         return story.findContainingTiddler(element).id.substr(7);}
>
> > > ------------------------------------------
>
> > > Unfortunately, story.findContainingTiddler() (a standard TW core
> > > function) always returns the title of the *outermost* containing
> > > tiddler -- in this case, the one that invokes the <<tiddler>> macro --
> > > rather than name the actual source tiddler that was transcluded when
> > > that macro was processed.  This, of course, produces the results that
> > > you have observed: the plugin is unable to retrieve the form data,
> > > because it is looking in the wrong tiddler!
>
> > > Fortunately, there may be a relatively easy solution...
>
> > > The key is to know that, whenever a tiddler is displayed in the story
> > > column, it is contained within a 'wrapper' element that includes a
> > > special "tiddler" attribute that holds the title of the current
> > > tiddler.
>
> > > Similarly, whenever a <<tiddler>> macro is processed, the transcluded
> > > content is also contained in a wrapper element that has its own
> > > "tiddler" attribute, set to the title of the source tiddler that was
> > > transcluded.
>
> > > The fix involves re-defining the FormTiddlerPlugin lookup function, so
> > > that it will find the *innermost* wrapper that has a "tiddler"
> > > attribute, and then use *that* value to retrieve the correct
> > > <data>...</data> block.
>
> > > We can do this by adding an extra tiddler, e.g.,
> > > [[FormTiddlerPluginTweak]], tagged with 'systemConfig', with the
> > > following replacement code:
> > > ------------------------------------------
> > > config.macros.formTiddler.getContainingTiddlerName = function(e) {
> > >         // find transcluded OR containing tiddler
> > >         while(e && !e.getAttribute("tiddler")) e=e.parentNode;
> > >         return e?e.getAttribute("tiddler"):e;};
>
> > > ------------------------------------------
>
> > > PLUS: as an added bonus, because 'transclusion' via the <<tabs>> macro
> > > works the same way as the <<tiddler>> macro (i.e., it sets the
> > > "tiddler" attribute of the containing wrapper), this 'tweak' should
> > > also fix the same problem when using forms from within tabs!
>
> > > Give it a try and let me know what happens...
>
> > > enjoy,
> > > -e
> > > Eric Shulman
> > > TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios- Hide quoted text -
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