Hi Mark Thanks for your feedback and playing around with it.
I don't think there is one best workflow for TiddlyBlink. I think each file could be slightly different. You could just use notes with titles and links, and view the references as links. You could do something similar to what I have in the example file, where it is like a stack of notes in a topic. I have actually been playing with adaptations of it, 1) using linking in a way similar to tagging and having only one main tiddler: https://giffmex.org/experiments/isaiahliterary.html 2) a very wiki-ish glossary of terms but that uses tags for certain tiddlers that feed into list-searches (categories, people, etc), and the tiddlers separate the references by categories, topics, books, etc. See image, in Spanish. Categorias are like outlines, libros are in this case biblical books, and terminos are the terms for the glossary - and are not tagged as the other two are. The gray box (a variant of the refstransclude system tiddler) shows the backlinks and links for each tiddler, so all related tiddlers are in the box. etc. I agree most people will not want to hand enter outlines. That is my own way of doing it. I enjoy hand-creating taxonomies for certain topics. You could actually use tagging, toc and lists in the "outline" tiddlers. It is not so much about what content goes there, as the desire (at least on my part) to have a given tiddler hidden when using the simple or clean transclusion mode. Some may not care, and may just want either simple links to all, or use the expandable/collapsible transclusion, both of which keep the reference section pretty clean. While tagging was not my focus for TiddlyBlink, I think tagging can be used in a complementary way with it. I would say, don't try to figure out my ways of using it, just play with it and see if TiddlyBlink leads you to your own system. But for me, the main advantage of using the easily accessible bi-directional links, autocomplete for links, relinks, and automatic tiddler creation when saving tiddlers with new links, is the ability to cross-reference sources, quotes, and the topics of the notes just by creating a new note tiddler and linking to source and topics. Eventually I will have a bunch of notes on a given topic from various sources, and can see them together without having to find a way to gather them. They are together because I added links when creating the notes. Oh, another way to answer your question would be, clone .sourcesList <https://giffmex.org/gifts/tiddlyblink.html#.sourcesList> and change the tiddler title and the list-search filter to Journal, and paste the new title into the toc in TiddlyBlink home. On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 7:24:52 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote: > > The problem with the outlines is that they have to be maintained by hand. > That's OK for special pages, > but what if you want to see an automatic listing of all journal listings, > without having to drill down to > the Journal "parent" ? That's the ability I'm adding, experimentally to > see if it helps: > > > But it may be that I don't understand the workflow you're following, or > I'm stuck on the tagging TOC model. It > may be like comparing oranges and badgers ... > > On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 8:36:14 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote: >> >> Hi Mark >> >> I single out outlines in order to hide them from transclusion. So, if I >> am understanding you correctly, kind of the opposite of what you are doing. >> I do that because outline tiddlers tend to be vertically quite tall, and >> with little actual content other than links. If the transclusion area gives >> me a list of quotes on a topic I don't want a long tiddler with links and >> no content interrupting. Hope that helps in understanding my reasoning. >> >> My idea is, outlines are my top-down way of organizing content, and links >> are my bottom-up way of organizing, and they ideally meet in the middle. >> The top levels will mostly be outlines organizing topics (kinds of mammals >> organized by type), and the lower levels are more lists of stuff I grab >> while reading (notes on badgers from journal articles). >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 9:53 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < >> tiddl...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> >>> It seems to me the reason you have an "outline" option is because the >>> reference display of links is opaque, >>> at compared to the traditional TOC approach -- you can only drill down >>> to the very next level. >>> >>> Here's something I'm trying. Certain tiddlers get a tag of "header". If >>> a tiddler appears in a reference listing, >>> and you're using "transclude" mode, it also shows the list of tiddlers >>> that are linked back to it. 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