Mark S, Hmm, can't edit posts anymore. I was going to add for you to keep in mind that I am the guy desperate enough to create ways in Stroll to hide the edit toolbar, tag area, type and field area and even title from the edit template. Maybe that will help you see how important a clean, minimal interface is to me, so take my comments as coming from someone who has those preferences.
On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 7:51:11 AM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote: > Hi Mark S > > I had another look, and yes, I had seen the most recent incarnation of > NotoWritey when I posted (if > https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey-outliner.html is still the > location). I would still stand by my statements: > > 1) It is similar to Stream: it is an outliner editable in view template of > the parent tiddler, where each node/line/point is its own tiddler that gets > edited from the view template of the parent.. > > 2) Even though it is an outliner, it seems more geared toward writing and > editing larger paragraphs toward longer pieces, than toward rapid > generation of shorter items as in to do lists, tables of contents and > outlines, because of the jarring apparatus that appears around each point > when creating it. This apparatus is distracting when one wants to just > generate a lot of short points or rearrange them. The distraction is both > visual (the cluttered feel I mentioned) and psychologically (lots of > choices present themselves forcefully). The background color of the text > field is dark, making it harder to read what one is writing. #eee would be > a more relaxing option. The hamburger menu at the far left is always > visible, creating another distraction. If there were a way to write but > have the editing apparatus hidden until I ask for it, that would be closer > to a Dynalist feel than NotoWritey is now. As it stands, I would compare it > more to a word processor feel, something useful for writing longer > paragraphs in longer documents. Please don't take the above as negative > comments! They are not. They are just my attempt at explaining why I don't > see NotoWritey as a tool for rapid generation of short points. > > 3) Having the editing tools available at each point is powerful, and > despite my reservations in point 2, I really do like NotoWritey. If I were > going to write a manuscript, I would choose NotoWritey over Streams and > probably over any of the other options. Although printing presents an > issue: I would add "Hide left margin icons when printing" to your roadmap, > since I don't see anything like that there. They are visible in print > preview in Firefox. > > Kudos, Mark, NotoWritey is a great tool. Sorry if my original post sounded > dismissive, it wasn't meant to be. And I haven't even investigated all the > options in the hamburger menu or the bottom of the editing apparatus. Lots > of power packed into it. > > On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 10:07:12 PM UTC-5 Mark S. wrote: > >> NotoWritey is similar to Streams but is geared more toward writing than >>> productivity and outlining. The nodes that open for editing have an editing >>> toolbar, which creates a cluttered feel, but increases functionality when >>> writing a paragraph. >>> >> >> I'm not sure if by your comment you've seen the latest version of NW, >> which has a Dynalist-like outliner. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4ebd7983-46bd-4f10-a79e-29b24e3e6ef7n%40googlegroups.com.
