Seems we're taking different paths on this :-)
Here are my latest results
http://groupies.tiddlyspot.com/
(username=password=groupies)
I think it has a decent interface.
The one problem is still how to *not* list items that are tagged with
a grouptiddlers name
.
You mentioned MatchTagsPlugin and I can see that you're using it in
your version but it's a bit above my understanding.
For instance, in the following;
<<matchTags {{"<<tiddler CheckboxToggleTag with: $2 [[$1]] %0\>\>
%0"}} "\n" $2>>
...what is {{ ? Is it some kind of alternative parenthesis?
and what what comes out from the <<tiddler CheckboxToggleTag>> here?
Thank you!
On Jan 27, 7:24 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Matias
>
> I've made a few excursions simulating "groupies" in different ways
> I've used matchtags and CheckboxToggleTag to add or remove grouptags:
> tagname2 and/or tagname3
> and I've added a fET which is used to render two lists one with
> tiddlers tagged with tagname1 and grouptags: tagname2 and tagname3
> and a list with tiddlers tagged with tagname1 and not grouptags:
> tagname2 or tagname3.
> TaggglyTagging is still applied for all individual results.
> Every list is inside a nested slider..
> To make quick proof of concept tests I've added formtiddlerplugin/
> datatiddlerplugin to provide input of tagname1 (common to all) and
> grouptags: tagname2 and tagname3... (needs refresh script)
>
> Don't know if its usefull at all, however it was fun to assemble...
>
> Link: :http://twmtc.tiddlyspot.com/#groupies
>
> Regards Mårtensson
>
> On 27 Jan., 02:55, twgrp <matiasg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank you so much Måns! Your coding taught me many valuable bits.
>
> > I have reworked your code and put up the result
> > here;http://groupies.tiddlyspot.com/
> > (username=password=groupies)
>
> > (A smaller/simpler list-tool for "few item lists" is also there, i.e
> > lists that don't require grouping.)
>
> > However, there is still one major problem and that is the last part
> > you mention above, suggesting MatchTags; I've experimented with that
> > and a zillion other ways, but I can't get it to work. The output from
> > matchtags does not seem to be in an appropriate format as input to a
> > fET. I've also tried with "fETs as parameter input to fET" and loads
> > of different combos. No cigar, as can be seen in the link above.. :-(
>
> > I.e the problem is to, for fET parameter input, get all the tiddlers
> > that are tags to Group tiddlers?
>
> > Thank you again!
>
> > On Jan 26, 2:32 am, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hi again> +"|>|>|<<tiddler [[fET&TT&NS##notCat]] with: [[category]]\>\>
> > > |f\n"
>
> > > should have been "with: [[item]]" of course..
> > > And the <<list filter tag expression needs MatchtagsPlugin
> > > (TiddlyTools) to work as intended..
>
> > > > A few minutes and I'll provide a testcase for you...
>
> > > I've made a minimal testcase for you, based on your first
> > > example:http://twmtc.tiddlyspot.com/#fET%26TT%26NS
>
> > > You'll find the plugins in the timeline...
>
> > > Regards Måns Mårtensson
>
> > > > On 26 Jan., 00:48, twgrp <matiasg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > TagglyTagging is one of my all time favorite plugins, but it doesn't
> > > > > quite fulfill what I'm asking for... possibly due to a flaw;
>
> > > > > <<tagglyTagging [[Tag1]]>> should (IMO), in "group view", only list
> > > > > tiddlers tagged "Tag1". That is "what is asked for" when expressing
> > > > > that macro call, as far as I can tell. But as it is now it also lists
> > > > > *all other* tags that happen to appear in tiddlers that are tagged
> > > > > Tag1. IMO this results in potentially long lists and information not
> > > > > asked for.
>
> > > > > Mike, I appreciate the suggestion though as I had, strangely enough,
> > > > > not considered TagglyTagging. I'm doing some experimenting and will
> > > > > get back.
> > > > > Thank you.
>
> > > > > On Jan 25, 2:41 am, Mike <eris...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > sounds like a job for TagglyTaggingPlugin . . .
>
> > > > > >http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTagging%20TagglyTaggingPlugin
>
> > > > > > Looks like it will do what you are looking fo out of the box
> > > > > > (unless I
> > > > > > missed something)
>
> > > > > > Good Luck,
>
> > > > > > Mike
>
> > > > > > On Jan 24, 7:30 pm, twgrp <matiasg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I give up. Three days of mutilating scripts and forEachTiddlers
> > > > > > > etc,
> > > > > > > not to mention digging in the archives... but I just can't crack
> > > > > > > this:
>
> > > > > > > I wish to create a list from tagged tiddlers like this (the
> > > > > > > format is
> > > > > > > Tiddler:Tags)
>
> > > > > > > ItemB:Category
> > > > > > > - ItemM: ItemB
> > > > > > > - ItemN:ItemB
> > > > > > > ItemC:Category
> > > > > > > - ItemB:ItemC (+tagged Category as seen above)
> > > > > > > - ItemN:ItemC (+tagged ItemA as seen above)
> > > > > > > - ItemQ:ItemC
> > > > > > > ItemA (not tagged Category therefore ending up after all
> > > > > > > categories
> > > > > > > are listed)
> > > > > > > ItemP
>
> > > > > > > Alternatively, more real example;
>
> > > > > > > China:Category
> > > > > > > - Plate:China
> > > > > > > - Saucer:China
> > > > > > > KitchenStuff:Category
> > > > > > > - China:KitchenStuff (+Category)
> > > > > > > - Plate:KitchenStuff (+China)
> > > > > > > - Tray:KitchenStuff
> > > > > > > ArmChair
> > > > > > > Table
>
> > > > > > > In short, there are three types of tags
> > > > > > > 1) Item (all are tagged with this, not shown in list above)
> > > > > > > 2) Category
> > > > > > > 3) names of 'Category tiddlers'
>
> > > > > > > Tagging items with "non-Category-tiddler-names" (e.g Plate or
> > > > > > > Table)
> > > > > > > affects nothing. However, items tagged with (2) or (3) appear
> > > > > > > ONLY as
> > > > > > > a Category and/or as a sub-item, i.e not as a separate item also.
> > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > idea is to shorten the list by categorizing things.
>
> > > > > > > Here untagged items come after categories, but it's ok if untagged
> > > > > > > items and categories are ordered together, i.e ItemA/ArmChair
> > > > > > > before
> > > > > > > ItemB/China above.
>
> > > > > > > For slick "sub-levelling" I intend to use ELS
> > > > > > > NestedSlidersPlugin[1].
> > > > > > > This means that whatever is put between +++ and === becomes a
> > > > > > > sublevel.
>
> > > > > > > I really hope someone can help out with this. It is a crucial
> > > > > > > part of
> > > > > > > a bigger project.
> > > > > > > Thank you.
>
> > > > > > > [1]http://www.tiddlytools.com/#NestedSlidersPlugin
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