@David and @odin.. , I unfortunately tried it in my TW5 and it was destroy 
by my wrong selection of the tiddlers but it worked fmpov. 

On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 8:26:54 PM UTC+1 HP wrote:

> David, this is the Tinka plugin in action. I am not sure if you did 
> already took a look into it:
> [image: temp.png]
>
> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 7:48:56 PM UTC+1 HP wrote:
>
>> David, it worked! Thanks! Now I don't need to uninstall it anymore.. <3
>>
>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 5:39:05 PM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi HP
>>>
>>> I forgot to let you know about my new instructions. See 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/YeiImlym0j8 Regardless of what 
>>> you have done, see that.
>>>
>>> Yes, $:/core/ui/EditTemplate is a shadow tiddler. But since in Stroll I 
>>> had deleted the tag that normally is on that tiddler, when you deleted that 
>>> tiddler it restored the tag. I didn't mean that the tiddler would cease to 
>>> exist. Sorry for the confusion.
>>>
>>> As for Tinka...that is for people much more knowledgeable than I.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:11:30 AM UTC-6 HP wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi David,
>>>> I tried to delete $:/core/ui/EditTemplate but it is a core TW5 shadow 
>>>> tiddler and will be immediately restored. I opened it and deleted it 
>>>> several times. The hint from @odin about Tinka for creating plugins sounds 
>>>> promising to me.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 1:09:40 PM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi HP
>>>>>
>>>>> I figured out the problem with the delete and close buttons. Just 
>>>>> delete $:/config/ui/EditTemplate 
>>>>> <https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html#%24%3A%2Fconfig%2Fui%2FEditTemplate>.
>>>>>  
>>>>> and you should be good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Explanation: I had a separate edit template for Stroll, so that every 
>>>>> time you edit a tiddler and close it, missing tiddlers are created. This 
>>>>> was to imitate Roam Research functionality and save a step of manually 
>>>>> creating every tiddler. I think to avoid users' confusion and work for me 
>>>>> every time TiddlyWiki gets upgraded, I will remove that functionality.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will update the Stroll tutorial to remove references to that 
>>>>> functionality, and I will update Stroll and Stroll's empty.html to 5.1.23 
>>>>> and without the offending tiddlers in a few moments. But for you, all you 
>>>>> need to do at the moment is delete that config tiddler, and it will 
>>>>> return 
>>>>> to its default state, which points to $:/core/ui/EditTemplate instead of 
>>>>> my 
>>>>> custom edittemplate.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is still a problem with the Close others and Fold others not 
>>>>> working in the more menu. I suspect those are problems with the Stories 
>>>>> plugin by Saq. I will poke around to see if I can find the problem, but 
>>>>> most likely Saq will know how to fix that. Everything else seems to be 
>>>>> working okay.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 7:49:45 PM UTC-6 HP wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Iirc there was a tutorial in your great list about "how to create a 
>>>>>> TW plugin". I will look for it and read a bit..maybe I can come up with 
>>>>>> something useful for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 2:17:30 AM UTC+1 David Gifford 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi HP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will review this in the morning (I am in Mexico City) and will try 
>>>>>>> to update Stroll tomorrow and publish updating instructions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have repeatedly asked for someone to put out Stroll as a plugin, 
>>>>>>> since I don't know how to do that. A couple people said they would, but 
>>>>>>> nothing came of it. But I will address the updating issues tomorrow. 
>>>>>>> Sorry 
>>>>>>> for the hassles!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 5:20:22 PM UTC-6 HP wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can't neither use the close or delete button for a new tiddler or 
>>>>>>>> use the new tiddler drop down menu after installing Stroll. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It isn't a plugin, so how do I uninstall it? I got a comprehensive 
>>>>>>>> list of entries via my advanced search within System for "stroll". i 
>>>>>>>> can't 
>>>>>>>> decide what of it i can or must remove.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe there is a more generic approach to this kind of problem when 
>>>>>>>> no plugins are involved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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