Hi HP can you explain? What did you try? And what do you mean by "it was 
destroyed" yet "it worked"?

On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 5:56:38 AM UTC-6 HP wrote:

> @David and @odin.. , I unfortunately tried it in my TW5 and it was destroy 
> by my wrong selection of the tiddlers but it worked fmpov. 
>
> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 8:26:54 PM UTC+1 HP wrote:
>
>> David, this is the Tinka plugin in action. I am not sure if you did 
>> already took a look into it:
>> [image: temp.png]
>>
>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 7:48:56 PM UTC+1 HP wrote:
>>
>>> David, it worked! Thanks! Now I don't need to uninstall it anymore.. <3
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 5:39:05 PM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi HP
>>>>
>>>> I forgot to let you know about my new instructions. See 
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/YeiImlym0j8 Regardless of 
>>>> what you have done, see that.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, $:/core/ui/EditTemplate is a shadow tiddler. But since in Stroll I 
>>>> had deleted the tag that normally is on that tiddler, when you deleted 
>>>> that 
>>>> tiddler it restored the tag. I didn't mean that the tiddler would cease to 
>>>> exist. Sorry for the confusion.
>>>>
>>>> As for Tinka...that is for people much more knowledgeable than I.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:11:30 AM UTC-6 HP wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>> I tried to delete $:/core/ui/EditTemplate but it is a core TW5 shadow 
>>>>> tiddler and will be immediately restored. I opened it and deleted it 
>>>>> several times. The hint from @odin about Tinka for creating plugins 
>>>>> sounds 
>>>>> promising to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 1:09:40 PM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi HP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I figured out the problem with the delete and close buttons. Just 
>>>>>> delete $:/config/ui/EditTemplate 
>>>>>> <https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html#%24%3A%2Fconfig%2Fui%2FEditTemplate>.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> and you should be good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Explanation: I had a separate edit template for Stroll, so that every 
>>>>>> time you edit a tiddler and close it, missing tiddlers are created. This 
>>>>>> was to imitate Roam Research functionality and save a step of manually 
>>>>>> creating every tiddler. I think to avoid users' confusion and work for 
>>>>>> me 
>>>>>> every time TiddlyWiki gets upgraded, I will remove that functionality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will update the Stroll tutorial to remove references to that 
>>>>>> functionality, and I will update Stroll and Stroll's empty.html to 
>>>>>> 5.1.23 
>>>>>> and without the offending tiddlers in a few moments. But for you, all 
>>>>>> you 
>>>>>> need to do at the moment is delete that config tiddler, and it will 
>>>>>> return 
>>>>>> to its default state, which points to $:/core/ui/EditTemplate instead of 
>>>>>> my 
>>>>>> custom edittemplate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is still a problem with the Close others and Fold others not 
>>>>>> working in the more menu. I suspect those are problems with the Stories 
>>>>>> plugin by Saq. I will poke around to see if I can find the problem, but 
>>>>>> most likely Saq will know how to fix that. Everything else seems to be 
>>>>>> working okay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 7:49:45 PM UTC-6 HP wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Iirc there was a tutorial in your great list about "how to create a 
>>>>>>> TW plugin". I will look for it and read a bit..maybe I can come up with 
>>>>>>> something useful for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 2:17:30 AM UTC+1 David Gifford 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi HP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will review this in the morning (I am in Mexico City) and will 
>>>>>>>> try to update Stroll tomorrow and publish updating instructions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have repeatedly asked for someone to put out Stroll as a plugin, 
>>>>>>>> since I don't know how to do that. A couple people said they would, 
>>>>>>>> but 
>>>>>>>> nothing came of it. But I will address the updating issues tomorrow. 
>>>>>>>> Sorry 
>>>>>>>> for the hassles!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 5:20:22 PM UTC-6 HP wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can't neither use the close or delete button for a new tiddler 
>>>>>>>>> or use the new tiddler drop down menu after installing Stroll. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It isn't a plugin, so how do I uninstall it? I got a comprehensive 
>>>>>>>>> list of entries via my advanced search within System for "stroll". i 
>>>>>>>>> can't 
>>>>>>>>> decide what of it i can or must remove.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe there is a more generic approach to this kind of problem 
>>>>>>>>> when no plugins are involved.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

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