TW Tones I don't know if I am not understanding you, vice versa or both aren't understanding the other.
What is the standart CSS element in TW? I agree If you talk about a explaining The CSS of general layout of TW. But in the decorative aspect, I think is more complex and hard to mantain due to a element can use different selectors and classes. El jueves, 27 de mayo de 2021 a las 13:09:49 UTC+2, Stobot escribió: > Tones, for what it's worth, I agree with a lot of things you're saying. At > my present state of learning TiddlyWiki (many years in the process now), > CSS & TiddlyWiki classes are one of the last frontiers for me, and probably > because there's no easy starting point. I'm not calling this out as a fault > of TiddlyWiki to be clear - just an opportunity to bring out / generate > more palette and layout developers! It strikes me that there's now a layout > chooser in the standard control panel, but no options yet. With my own > project of a layout that would be familiar to people who use Office every > day, it's been a struggle figuring that out, which makes me wonder what > we'd get from the user population if that were easier! > > I also however agree with others that building something going to explain > *everything* is probably too far, so in my head there's a dividing factor > where something could be provided by going part of the way, and leaving the > browser developer tools to go the rest of the way. If that sounds like a > "cop out", I'd suggest we're already there. For example as has been pointed > out, there's StoryTop and StoryLeft as tiddlers, but setting those to 0 > doesn't actually move the story all the way to the top or left due to other > classes unknown. > > You (Tones) may be focused on other parts like formatting colors etc. but > my own interest has primarily been positioning and layout as I'm sure is > evident :) One thing on my todo list was to have a 1-page reference sheet > of all of the main classes I was able to deduce regarding layout. Showing a > picture of the whole standard screen layout, and marking the class or > tiddler that controls each of the spacing. Seems like most of the spacing > settings are all in the tc-.... .padding / .margin namespace. I have no way > of knowing how many of these tc-.... classes there are in regards to > layout, but if there are a limited number, this may still be doable. R > language for instance does a lot of their core documentation on these > 1-page printable pages (Cheatsheets) which are really handy. We could > produce something similar as a visual reference. RStudio Cheatsheets - > RStudio <https://www.rstudio.com/resources/cheatsheets/> > > Lastly just as commentary, my own (very possibly inaccurate) feel from > watching this community over many years is that most of the experts here > came in with some web development background first, and then are trying to > learn, and develop just about how TiddlyWiki does things. I conversely come > from nearly the opposite background of having played with TiddlyWiki and > other low-code programming languages for a long time, can make really > useful and powerful things (I build business apps for my corporation on the > side), but struggle the most on changing the look and feel. If I reflect, I > guess I interpret things that way because when the question is around say > generating a list of things, we see really great, detailed walkthroughs of > how it works, watchouts, step by step answers which are awesome, but to > your point Tones, when it's a formatting question, the answer is more like > - "It's easy, just use CSS!" or pointing to some other highly-customized > wiki somebody else has made. The implication is that we already know how to > reverse-engineer css and the TiddlyWiki classes. Again, not criticizing in > the slightest - we're all here voluntarily, just an observation that I feel > like I'm coming from a minority perspective. > > On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 4:08:47 AM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote: > >> TW Tones >> >> I think it would be pretty easy to provide a LIVE HIGHLIGHT tool that >> dynamically shows CSS in action in the wiki? >> (For instance giving a coloured border to different div elements)? >> >> That might clarify the issues somewhat in a practical way? >> >> Thoughts >> TT >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d38b9507-29bc-4400-83ad-6520b374bdb3n%40googlegroups.com.
