Amen, @TT: machine models are all too simplistic, AFAICT, forcing us to choose between either hierarchical (I.e. outlining) or network (I.e. wiki-weaving) mode, while reality calls for sometimes one modality and sometimes the other, depending on the context.
A corresponding dichotomy that has gained currency among cognitive theorists wants us to decide: are you an Architect or a Gardener? I for one am both, in fact - and i think I’m not the only one! /walt On Saturday, June 19, 2021 at 11:10:55 AM UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote: > Ciao ludwa6 > > Slightly in a different direction, but strongly related, is fact that > computer science is UNDER appreciative of cognitive variations. > > Meaning and pattern finding is an infinite human activity that existed > long before computers or modern ideas of what is "kosher". > > It is certainly true that some kind of typology of different strategies > in HOW ONE LEARNS & RECORDS is useful. > > But, to be honest, our current usual models on the net are somewhat crude > to what human beings actually do, which is vast, in many directions. > > Just thoughts :-) > TT > > On Friday, 18 June 2021 at 18:36:29 UTC+2 ludwa6 wrote: > >> Came across this article today >> <http://blog.dornea.nu/2021/06/13/note-taking-in-2021/> via HackerNews >> (where it has sparked quite a lively comment thread >> <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27513008>), which brought me to >> realise something about an inner tension i have been struggling for too >> long to reconcile: it's about the difference between NoteTAKING vs >> NoteMAKING (or DigitalGardening or MindMapping or ZettelKasten or PKMS or >> whatever you want to call it) -two modalities of work that are so >> fundamentally different, the idea of trying to do both with the same tool >> might just never work, period. >> >> Interestingly, author Victor Dorneau keeps his own Zettelkasten in >> TiddlyWiki, citing @Soren B's as his inspiration (GMTA ;-)...And tho his >> NoteTaking/GTD system is rather more complicated than i would like (it >> involves Emacs ORG mode and some proprietary mobile app, from which he >> extracts & converts data to XML via a "simple" Golang script), i completely >> resonate with the principle: while one's NoteMAKING tool should be >> optimised for "Intertwingularity" -as TiddlyWiki of course is- one's >> NoteTAKING tool should optimised for maximum speed & portability. >> >> So, i'm now back to using Dynalist for agile NoteTaking, exporting my >> workfile at day's end as plain text, and copy/pasting it into a new Journal >> tiddler in TW for integration. Crude, but effective enough, albeit with >> some editing overhead in TW that it would be nice to eliminate. Am >> starting to explore the possibilities of Logseq as a potential Dynalist >> replacement; it does outlining in much the same way, but has some >> interesting export functions, including JSON and Roam JSON. If there were >> a way in TW to import such exports and convert them into proper tiddlers... >> That would be amazing! >> >> If anyone else has got some other solution for agile NoteTaking that >> integrates nicely with TiddlyWiki for NoteMaking, i'd be very interested to >> hear about it. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/7386a500-c185-4c13-ac4f-f8a8e76eaa95n%40googlegroups.com.
