The purpose of that mock-up was just to pin down the various things needed 
for simultaneous notemaking and notetaking (if one wants), or just focused 
on notemaking for the current task, or just focused on notetaking for the 
current task.

I had just gone with columns to make the pieces easy to identify, but any 
kind of interface can be slapped together.  Anything could be done.  
Columns, rows, panels, tabs, etc. etc. etc.

So let's not see that as design, but just as discussion about the necessary 
pieces/components/features/functionality/workflows/etc.

Regardless, from what I see so far in this thead, I still think: why can't 
that all be done in TiddlyWiki ?

Anything and everything that's ever been done with TiddlyWiki, bits and 
pieces can be pulled together and combined, I believe, to build something 
that can handle all of:

   - distraction-free notetaking
   - distraction-free notemaking
   - simultaneous notetaking + notemaking when the urge strikes

So pick any screenshots from anything out there as sources of inspiration, 
but don't be limited by them (i.e. imagine what doesn't yet exist, but 
could exist.)

Just as ideas (inspiration?), here are a couple of screenshots:

   - https://zim-wiki.org/screenshots/zim-normal.png
   - 
   
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-g43ZEQDDVdI/UBPbvyfyCbI/AAAAAAAAWUg/uxeWVSOXYGg/s1600/KeepNote-Best-Note-Taking-Software-Linux.jpg
   
Sniffs like a big project.  For it to have any hope of happening, it needs 
some tangible list of problems that need solving, needs that have to be 
addressed, features to be described ... yup, requirements gathering.

Regardless, even just the discussions of  the problems/needs is right 
awesome.  Discussions of features/solutions to address individual 
problems/needs is icing on the cake.




On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 5:52:18 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:

> Charlie, TT et al: Much as I do like these multi-pane views for NoteMAKING 
> in TW, this is not what one wants for NoteTAKING, as I see it - as per the 
> article i referenced up top, and the one shared by @Carsten and many more.
>
> The two window setup i posited in the eLearning UserStory presumed a video 
> lecture in one window (via Zoom, YouTube or what have you), plus one other 
> window where I do my agile NoteTaking. Any additional frames would bu not 
> only unnecessary, but moreover a distraction. This is key to the power of 
> outlining, as i see it (and most outliner aficionados would probably agree, 
> tho i realize that outlining mode is not for everyone): it’s a blank canvas 
> on which i can capture and organize a set of ideas just as quickly as they 
> come to me- whether in context of a video lecture, a focus meeting, or in a 
> solitary coffee-fueled brainstorm.
>
> Only when this job of NoteTAKING is finished do i want to think about 
> NoteMAKING; that is when i value the many affordances that TW brings to the 
> challenge of integrating this new material into my preexisting web of 
> deeply intertwingled ideas.  This is the problem-space/ opportunity zone 
> where i think development effort would do best to focus: interoperability, 
> versus trying to be all things to all users.
>
> /walt
> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 9:07:06 AM UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Ciao Charlie & Walt
>>
>> Charlie, actually it was part to the point ...
>> [image: Screenshot 2021-06-20 095945.jpg]
>>
>> A 4th Column on random concerns that arise in is too would be 
>> interesting. 
>> A 4th column for me might, for instance, read "Slightly concerned Bruno 
>> is OK."
>>
>> There are two issues, I think ... 
>>    (1) How to make it easy to switch "column" to enter note; 
>>    (2) How to (auto?) "flag/tag" each column content so you can rearrange 
>> the info in many ways later. 
>> Just thoughts!
>>
>> But the general idea looks good to me!
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>> cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Ugh et oops..  e-Learner.  I went a little off-track there thinking 
>>> in-person classroom/auditorium/hall.
>>>
>>> Charlie Veniot <cj.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now we're talking.  That is an awesome use case.
>>>
>>>

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