I wouldn’t think of doing documentation any other way, mate ;-)    
/w

On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 5:48:03 PM UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> That might need a TiddlyWiki...  ☺
>
> Smiles aside, TiddlyWiki for requirements management.  Hmmmmm
>
> On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 1:42 PM ludwa6 <wlud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes @Charlie: on more careful research + reflection  
>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/vlAZ_K4K63o/m/cPuFWVIKAQAJ>, i 
>> now realize that you are quite right.  Am doing further research and will 
>> be elaborating on those requirements in due course.  /walt 
>>
>> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 5:12:20 PM UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The purpose of that mock-up was just to pin down the various things 
>>> needed for simultaneous notemaking and notetaking (if one wants), or just 
>>> focused on notemaking for the current task, or just focused on notetaking 
>>> for the current task.
>>>
>>> I had just gone with columns to make the pieces easy to identify, but 
>>> any kind of interface can be slapped together.  Anything could be done.  
>>> Columns, rows, panels, tabs, etc. etc. etc.
>>>
>>> So let's not see that as design, but just as discussion about the 
>>> necessary pieces/components/features/functionality/workflows/etc.
>>>
>>> Regardless, from what I see so far in this thead, I still think: why 
>>> can't that all be done in TiddlyWiki ?
>>>
>>> Anything and everything that's ever been done with TiddlyWiki, bits and 
>>> pieces can be pulled together and combined, I believe, to build something 
>>> that can handle all of:
>>>
>>>    - distraction-free notetaking
>>>    - distraction-free notemaking
>>>    - simultaneous notetaking + notemaking when the urge strikes
>>>
>>> So pick any screenshots from anything out there as sources of 
>>> inspiration, but don't be limited by them (i.e. imagine what doesn't yet 
>>> exist, but could exist.)
>>>
>>> Just as ideas (inspiration?), here are a couple of screenshots:
>>>
>>>    - https://zim-wiki.org/screenshots/zim-normal.png
>>>    - 
>>>    
>>> https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-g43ZEQDDVdI/UBPbvyfyCbI/AAAAAAAAWUg/uxeWVSOXYGg/s1600/KeepNote-Best-Note-Taking-Software-Linux.jpg
>>>    
>>> Sniffs like a big project.  For it to have any hope of happening, it 
>>> needs some tangible list of problems that need solving, needs that have to 
>>> be addressed, features to be described ... yup, requirements gathering.
>>>
>>> Regardless, even just the discussions of  the problems/needs is right 
>>> awesome.  Discussions of features/solutions to address individual 
>>> problems/needs is icing on the cake.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 5:52:18 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Charlie, TT et al: Much as I do like these multi-pane views for 
>>>> NoteMAKING in TW, this is not what one wants for NoteTAKING, as I see it - 
>>>> as per the article i referenced up top, and the one shared by @Carsten and 
>>>> many more.
>>>>
>>>> The two window setup i posited in the eLearning UserStory presumed a 
>>>> video lecture in one window (via Zoom, YouTube or what have you), plus one 
>>>> other window where I do my agile NoteTaking. Any additional frames would 
>>>> bu 
>>>> not only unnecessary, but moreover a distraction. This is key to the power 
>>>> of outlining, as i see it (and most outliner aficionados would probably 
>>>> agree, tho i realize that outlining mode is not for everyone): it’s a 
>>>> blank 
>>>> canvas on which i can capture and organize a set of ideas just as quickly 
>>>> as they come to me- whether in context of a video lecture, a focus 
>>>> meeting, 
>>>> or in a solitary coffee-fueled brainstorm.
>>>>
>>>> Only when this job of NoteTAKING is finished do i want to think about 
>>>> NoteMAKING; that is when i value the many affordances that TW brings to 
>>>> the 
>>>> challenge of integrating this new material into my preexisting web of 
>>>> deeply intertwingled ideas.  This is the problem-space/ opportunity zone 
>>>> where i think development effort would do best to focus: interoperability, 
>>>> versus trying to be all things to all users.
>>>>
>>>> /walt
>>>> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 9:07:06 AM UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ciao Charlie & Walt
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie, actually it was part to the point ...
>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-06-20 095945.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> A 4th Column on random concerns that arise in is too would be 
>>>>> interesting. 
>>>>> A 4th column for me might, for instance, read "Slightly concerned 
>>>>> Bruno is OK."
>>>>>
>>>>> There are two issues, I think ... 
>>>>>    (1) How to make it easy to switch "column" to enter note; 
>>>>>    (2) How to (auto?) "flag/tag" each column content so you can 
>>>>> rearrange the info in many ways later. 
>>>>> Just thoughts!
>>>>>
>>>>> But the general idea looks good to me!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>> TT
>>>>>
>>>>> cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ugh et oops..  e-Learner.  I went a little off-track there thinking 
>>>>>> in-person classroom/auditorium/hall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie Veniot <cj.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now we're talking.  That is an awesome use case.
>>>>>>
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